Shenyang next gen combat aircraft (?J-XDS)

[uguduwa]

In fact, SAC has already started the moving process, but the construction of the new factory still needs several years, and it will become the main production line of J-35 in the future (it is not difficult to imagine that J35A, as a "cheap product", can be produced by assembly line in countries where J-20 can maintain high production efficiency, just like they assemble cars and mobile phones).

Where is the new factory? Can‘t they just move it into the desert like Skunk Works?

 

[subotai1]

Where is the new factory? Can‘t they just move it into the desert like Skunk Works?

SkunkWorks isn't really in some remote desert. Its in a suburb of Los Angeles,

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The issue is that you cannot just move an aircraft factory. You need to move all the workers, their families and build another air strip. And then you need all the support network; the buildings, schools, shops, grocery stores.

So the best you can do is move it somewhere where you have more space to expand and a little more control over who gets to see what is on the runway.

 

[uguduwa]

On another note, does anyone have any research papers to recommdnd regarding AMT?

 

[Gloire_bb]

SkunkWorks isn't really in some remote desert. Its in a suburb of Los Angeles,

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The issue is that you cannot just move an aircraft factory. You need to move all the workers, their families and build another air strip. And then you need all the support network; the buildings, schools, shops, grocery stores.

So the best you can do is move it somewhere where you have more space to expand and a little more control over who gets to see what is on the runway.

Yeah, and it just so happens that best engineers, and more importantly their spouses, often fail to appreciate beauty of pastoral life away from mundane pleasures of big city life.

Especially when you're considering things like kids education, which is, putting it very mildly, an important concern in China.
Private sector likes talents, too.

 

[Syrida2887]

Where is the new factory? Can‘t they just move it into the desert like Skunk Works?

I should have attached the corresponding satellite map to my previous post(#2,163), and I can find the aerial photos of news reports on X, in which the factory building has a length of 750 meters and a main span of about 290 meters.

 

[no_name]

what the hell is going on with the plaaf insignia on the first photo? thats something i expect to see out of ai output...?

Pic don't look AI, could be the lady/guy have some camera filter on causing the funny artifact.

 

[Phantom Chuck]

By the way, I just noticed, the 2nd prototype/aircraft lacks that characteristic triangle on the intake!

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The j-50 seems to have no head up display. Also the pilot sits low in the cockpit and seem to have almost no downward view over the nose. This suggest the aircraft can’t be flown without some kind of obligatory helmet mounted VR display both for displaying flight and combat management information, and for relaying live outside view using distributed aperture optical imaging system around the plane.

 

[siegecrossbow]

The j-50 seems to have no head up display. Also the pilot sits low in the cockpit and seem to have almost no downward view over the nose. This suggest the aircraft can’t be flown without some kind of obligatory helmet mounted VR display both for displaying flight and combat management information, and for relaying live outside view using distributed aperture optical imaging system around the plane.

At one point they even considered an opaque cockpit design but rejected it as being too radical.

 

[Blitzo]

The j-50 seems to have no head up display. Also the pilot sits low in the cockpit and seem to have almost no downward view over the nose. This suggest the aircraft can’t be flown without some kind of obligatory helmet mounted VR display both for displaying flight and combat management information, and for relaying live outside view using distributed aperture optical imaging system around the plane.

We've already been over this multiple times.

At present it is too early based on imagery quality and angle to suggest that they don't have a HUD on the aircraft.

It is entirely possible that there is a low profile HUD but obscured by the internal canopy frame.

 

[MeiouHades]

At one point they even considered an opaque cockpit design but rejected it as being too radical.

How would that ever be a good choice?