Tencent Hunyuan 3D modeling is going to be a game changer in 3D printing and manufacturing industry imo.
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Tencent Hunyuan 3D modeling is going to be a game changer in 3D printing and manufacturing industry imo.
Qwen 3 max is the highest rated non reasoning model. I think this is good.
But the latest Chinese models are so far down the list in terms of performance. Deepseek is still the highest with 58 score while the top models are now scoring 68. Lets hope they can catchup soon.
It seems that with the latest Index updates, Deepseek 3.1 Reasoning is now ahead of Qwen 235B 2507. The latter used to be ahead a month or so ago, IIRC.
do you know the difference between reasoning and non-reasoning models?
Ecovacs will be using Qwen models and Alibaba's full AI stack in its home vacuum robots.
It seems like a marketing term, to call what these models do as reasoning.
Essentially generate more tokens to try to have a bigger context before generating a final answer.
Anyways, this list has both reasoning and non-reasoning models and even the latest Chinese models are far behind in the benchmark. I was pointing out that fact.
Well, Qwen3-max is the most powerful of the non-reasoning models as you can see.
Basically for practical use, non-reasoning model can respond right away, so you can use it for chat bots and automate away call center and use it on your AI robots and such. Reasoning models take too long to respond, so you can only use it for much longer tasks. Which btw, is a function of both the model itself and thinking time..... So, comparing just non-reasoning model is pretty important.
You need good non-reasoning model to build much better reasoning models.
Hmmm… when all Chinese AI companies are offering free open sourced models , I don’t think it’s a good idea for them to be charging customers for now, especially since they are not even the leading Chinese company in this domain. American AI companies who do charge like Open AI, Claude,, Grok, Gemini etc are still ahead of Kimi . So I fail to see what’s their advantage here.
It’s only a matter of time before most Chinese companies surpass U.S companies in frontier reasoning LLMs(Kimi already surpasses all U.S companies in non-reasoning LLMs by a large margin) imo. They’re likely still in the experimentation phase, which is why they’re currently offering API credits equivalent to the value of their subscription. I believe their subscription plans will be highly competitive by 2026.