Shenyang next gen combat aircraft thread

sunnymaxi

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@tphuang sir you might be interested in this research paper.
 

Syrida2887

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So we're saying it's pure coincidence that previously we had a leak of the J-35 prototype at almost the exact same place? Many years later and nobody patched that security hole?

Isn't it more plausible that the "leak" was planned/unofficially authorized? Nobody who is sufficiently interested in this doesn't know the consequences of jumping a fence and taking such a picture.


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You need to notice the fact that these institutes were not actually located in the downtown area when they were founded. It was the rapid expansion of China in recent decades that surrounded these experimental areas rather than the downtown area where the research institutes are located. And of course these exposures have been noticed. SAC has planned to build a brand-new giant factory in the new area north of the city, including a super factory which scale is close to the F-35 factory in Fort Worth.
 

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sdkan

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You can download the whole paper in Zhiwang for 7.5 yuan (use college acount for free).
I've said before that I was struck by how surprisingly open China's military-related papers and patents are.
Previously seen in the network anecdotes,

said the North Korean students in Harbin Institute of Technology, the main thing is to download papers
 

HailingTX20

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You need to notice the fact that these institutes were not actually located in the downtown area when they were founded. It was the rapid expansion of China in recent decades that surrounded these experimental areas rather than the downtown area where the research institutes are located. And of course these exposures have been noticed. SAC has planned to build a brand-new giant factory in the new area north of the city, including a super factory which scale is close to the F-35 factory in Fort Worth.
I'm well aware where SAC is located and what the surroundings look like. But those pictures were clearly not taken from a high-rise, they are at relative ground level.

Being in the city center doesn't prevent an organization from shielding sensitive activities. Simple countermeasures such as raising perimeter walls, adding visual barriers or netting, planting dense vegetation, installing temporary screens, patrolling guards or even just cameras can make photography extremely difficult. The fact that such straightforward measures weren't used, even after almost identical earlier leaks, makes it hard to believe that these leaks aren't either allowed or at the very least tolerated.
 

kwaigonegin

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I'm well aware where SAC is located and what the surroundings look like. But those pictures were clearly not taken from a high-rise, they are at relative ground level.

Being in the city center doesn't prevent an organization from shielding sensitive activities. Simple countermeasures such as raising perimeter walls, adding visual barriers or netting, planting dense vegetation, installing temporary screens, patrolling guards or even just cameras can make photography extremely difficult. The fact that such straightforward measures weren't used, even after almost identical earlier leaks, makes it hard to believe that these leaks aren't either allowed or at the very least tolerated.
I'm incline to believe as usually top secret projects like these should be flown at night and preferably out of densely population areas. Shielding not just from the civilian pop. but from satellites etc.
For ex. The B2, F117 etc flown for years before anyone ever saw it.
So it's either done or purpose or SAC was just totally careless and incompetent from shielding this project better.
 
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