Surely you are joking. There is no way they can be saying that.
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I can’t find the original post but I have found a follow up article on SCMP.
Seems pretty clear about that person being shattered.
Hell no! This is the stupidest short-sighted idea ever. They are one of the main reasons the US corporations are ruined. You are inviting bad habits, bad work culture, bad sticky smell into your home. Hell no.
I think it’s a little short slighted to dismiss it out of hand, one thing I have noticed is that the Indian problem in companies tends to have a critical mass issue. As long as the numbers are kept in check and only accept the best of the best, it should be manageable, and I think this is the reason Japan thinks it a good idea to have a wider cooperation with India regarding labour.
They have a small population of Indians right now that kind of worked out and have a certain level of assimilation and thinks that it will be fine with a wider induction without really understanding the sh*t they are getting themselves into.
It’s a microcosm of the whole immigration discussion. If a large number are accepted at any one time, it becomes an issue due to grouping and non-assimilation. Let’s face it, assimilation is one of things China is best at, with a proven historical record at that. Thus, I think it’s possible but needs to be managed and scrutinised to death.
FriedRiceNSpice
Major
If you know, you know!
When an Indian applicant meets an Indian interviewer, he will either get 1LC easy or 3LC hards for a 60 minute round!
Intel is a textbook example of what happens when middle management gets overrun by Indians.
Indian middle management is one of the two primary reasons for the shitification of US tech. To be fair, I feel they are often scapecoated to cover up the other primary factor: shareholder capitalism. Private equity has taken over ownership over most of all the large publicly traded tech companies, resulting in leadership focusing more on short term share price gains rather than strategic vision. Hence the constant cycles of hiring then layoffs seen since 2023 (as both announcing layoffs for "efficiency," and then hiring a few months later for "growth," boosts share prices).
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Japanese, like the Germans, are very bad with long term strategic decisions. You just proved my point.
plawolf
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Hiring Indians is fine, even hiring a lot of them can be manageable. What absolutely will ruin companies is if Indian managers gets into key HR positions and management positions to make hiring decisions.
As soon as that happens your workforces will become Indian faster than you can imagine. Worse is that they will fill the company not with talented Indians, but all their friends and family and cronies who are absolutely useless at their jobs and squeeze out all the non-Indian workers who are any good by making them do all the work and they either burn out or just say ‘fuck this’ and get a better job elsewhere.
In many ways, Indians are the perfect predator for modern liberal westerners who are too scared of being labelled racists to say what the Indians are literally openly doing. But if you do call out their BS they will absolutely play the racism card on you.
Western elites are not stupid and can plainly see what is happening. To start with, I think it was viewed as partly a price worth paying to give yhe plebs an immigrant target to dump their hate on instead of a the rich elite who are ruining the world. But I think that has run its course as large sections of western societies are now openly borderline fascist. And I think western elites genuinely underestimated just how much damage Indians can cause to their top companies. That, I think, is a primary reason for Trump’s H1B tax, as they cut their losses on this venture.
Yes, that will hurt American companies, but nowhere near as badly as what Indians are already doing to American corporations en mass.
FriedRiceNSpice
Major
Yes, Indians and Jews are both useful scapegoats for the "old money" oligarchs.
As long as focus is on quality. As I have expressed on another thread, small numbers of researchers/scientists that are near the top of their fields absolutely should be recruited. Origin and nationality should not even be a consideration for this type of talent. What China does not need is Indian IT workers, rank and file Indian engineers, project managers, and especially not Indian managerial staff (which covers 95-99% Indian H1b holders working in the US)
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Singapore has one of the hardest and strictest immigration programs there. They aim to keep Singapore 70% Chinese at least.
Yet even SG is getting overran. CECA and other deals have flooded SG with Indians to a point its own graduates can't find work.
In my previous post I mentioned DBS which as you know had an Indian CEO not even Singaporean but from India itself. Maybe he started ok but as time went on DBS was only good for stock price but bad if you were a customer with all the outages. I heard he put a lot of his own people in DBS too. It's only through force from guys like the government he stepped down from his position. And of coz the new person from SG has to fix the mess.
If SG which is very aware of how to play the world from multiple angles cant do it, how can Japan do it? People may not know this but Japan being an isolated island is very ignorant of the world coz for most part, it never had to deal with it in person. The ignorance they have will shock a lot of people.