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[Radonislav]

Already is probably a bit too much of a word.
Of those, only cruise missiles and short to medium range SAMs reached service as of now(i.e. small drones, cruise missile turbojets and SRFs). Everything else - soon(bozdogan/gokdogan - almost around the corner), but not yet.

Bozdoğan and Gökdoğan are already in service

 

[Gloire_bb]

Bozdoğan and Gökdoğan are already in service

IIRC deliveries were slated to second half 2025(25/25 for both missiles), and iirc no announcement came yet.
Usually best mark for, ugh, announcement heavy nations is first launch from normal unit.

 

[CasualObserver]

Already is probably a bit too much of a word.
Of those, only cruise missiles and short to medium range SAMs reached service as of now(i.e. small drones, cruise missile turbojets and SRFs). Everything else - soon(bozdogan/gokdogan - almost around the corner), but not yet.

The Siper IADS (2 batteries -maybe 3?- in Block 1 config), Bozdoğan VWR and Gökdoğan BVR (LRIP) have already been inducted. Moreover, the solid-fuel ramjet anti-radiation missile is the one that is actually right around the corner. It has been undergoing extensive testing by the 401st Test Squadron for years.

Additionally, Aselsan and Roketsan have recently opened air defense missile/radar production complexes, which are set to more than double the annual production.

I'm not an optimist, as you might think I am, and I'm very thorough when it comes to these matters.

 

[CasualObserver]

IIRC deliveries were slated to second half 2025(25/25 for both missiles), and iirc no announcement came yet.
Usually best mark for, ugh, announcement heavy nations is first launch from normal unit.

You missed it; the MoD even shared footage of the Gökdogan missile test conducted during the LRIP delivery acceptance stage.

Moreover, it is also used on a NASAMS equivalent called Gökdemir.

 

[Gloire_bb]

You missed it; the MoD even shared footage of the Gökdogan missile test conducted during the LRIP delivery acceptance stage.

i mean, normal unit.
It's like meteors were delivered to french air force in 2019, but first launch by actual AdA unit - 2021, carrier unit - june 2025(!).
Usually if you see this announcement, you can expect it to be used in combat.

 

[CasualObserver]

i mean, normal unit.
It's like meteors were delivered to french air force in 2019, but first launch by actual AdA unit - 2021, carrier unit - june 2025(!).
Usually if you see this announcement, you can expect it to be used in combat.

It is one thing to get inducted, another thing to become operational.

Don't worry though, you'll see it soon enough. It will presumably happen with the MURAD-100A as well, since at least the successful targeting of the radar needs to be qualified before the final delivery date of the last unit of Özgür-2 (2025-2027). The Gökdoğan has only recently entered service.

Another thing to keep in mind is that, no matter how many workarounds you find, you still can’t fully integrate the Gökdoğan with the APG-68v9. You’ll need the MURAD-100A to unlock the missile’s full capabilities. This is why they’re not scaling up production just yet - they’re waiting for indigenous platforms to enter service en masse. (we still don't know if the TSK is planning to order the Gökdemir SAM system, but the Bozdogan VWR has been adopted as a naval point-defence missile)

 

[Gloire_bb]

Don't worry, you'll see it soon enough, presumably with the MURAD-100A as well, since the successful targeting of the radar needs to be qualified before the final delivery date of the last unit of Özgür-2 (2025-2027). The Gökdoğan has only recently entered service.

As i expressed in previous exchange - i wouldn't, if all those pieces won't be necessary yesterday.
Unlike mildly annoying Russia threat from reddit (6 centuries fresh) Israel says things openly, does what it says, and US supports it regardless.
Iran was way, way further in their AD modernization effort, and was protected by distance. TAF (unlike IrIAF) is worth something and this something is quite a lot, but it's visibly not at a level where it can stop IAF. Especially if further AMRAAM deliveries are to be denied (i.e. availability is ~2 missiles per jet). Years and even months count in gold.

Another thing to keep in mind is that, no matter how many workarounds you find, you still can’t fully integrate the Gökdoğan with the APG-68v9. You’ll need the MURAD-100A to unlock the missile’s full capabilities. This is why they’re not scaling up production just yet - they’re waiting for indigenous platforms to enter service en masse.

Yes, that's what i thought pretty much.

 

[phrozenflame]

Aselsan proudly displayed their comms technology after the Lebanon pager attacks. What are they going to post on their twitter when certain places in Istanbul and Ankara get AirLora'd? Showboating Siper? Hisar?

Activating S-400 will anger the US and will also be destroyed in a Zio strike. Stuck between a rock and a hard place...

Nukes with somewhat credible capability to deliver them to the threat are the only guarantors of sovereignty.

And if the threat is Israel, NATO hardware is a liability, not an asset.

Personally I dont think Israel will take overt direct action on Turkish soil. I feel there are still several prior steps to that on the escalation ladder.

100% they will try to minimize Turkish influence in Syria, overtly and covertly, directly and indirectly.

First step, Turkey needs to localize(100%) CnC comms network. (100% local supply chain of components and Finished goods). I believe they are working towards that.