So you didn't get my point as well.
Correct. Nobody got your point, because it doesn't make sense. Take a look at your original post. You got 2 people laughing at you and 2 people with dropped jaw expressions. My response had 13 likes and loves. This isn't a popularity contest but when everybody in a forum known for professionalism disagrees with you and agrees with the counterargument, it's time for a self-check instead of, "Oh, you ALSO didn't get my point like the rest of these people."
I asked you if you think China doesn't recognise the reason you made for north Korea developing nukes.
You didn't ask me that. That question doesn't make sense. Reread and rewrite.
So you think Chinese leaders dont know about what you just said?
I think they know exactly what I said, which is why China has excellent an relationship with North Korea, which you fail to acknowledge.
So if they knew all this why are they still avainst north Korea developing nukes to the point they joined the US to placed sanctions on N. Korea to stop their nuclear weapons programs?
Next time, you need to read before you respond. I'll quote my last response.
"That was at a time when China needed to play along with American leadership for its own wolf-in-sheeps-clothing scheme."
Or are you saying China and the US have been unfair to N.Korea? Lol
Absolutely. America started it and China had to go along with it when it was too weak to stand up to the Western order. What's funny about that? Is it not globally known that the US bullied North Korea because it wasn't a bitch with its legs in the air like South Korea?
Dude life is not a fairy tale,
So shut up with your made up shit.
where we have to victimise for eternity.
I didn't victimize anyone. You victimized English in this post.
.do you think North korea is the only country to have had a sad history?
What does that have to do with anything? There are countries that don't exist anymore because they were conquered. What's your point?
The only thing funny here is your nonsense rambling in broken English.
China had an even more tragic one as well, but that doesnt means China will keep victimising herself and stopping herself from moving on.
What is your point? North Korea also moved on; it militarized itself and acquired nukes to defend against American aggression.
Japan committed even more atrous crimes in China but china moved on and even established relations and ties with Japan later on and allowed massive japanese investment and economic cooperation which continues to this day.
That's China's speciality. Remain someone's political enemy while strengthening itself through business.
Using North korean logic China shouldnt have done any of that and woulf have kept a hostile isolationist relationship relation , we have to be realistic in life.
North Korea is normal; that is how countries/people act when they are attacked. China is a master tactician to pull a wolf-in-sheep's clothing and use our enemy's resources to build ourself until we become stronger than them. The price, which North Korea never had to pay, was pride. China had to lower our heads for decades as we grew, and now we have to rebuild that pride and shed our past insecurities. North Korea never lowered its head to anyone; it was always a brute with an axe and a middle finger to anyone who crossed it. It's not very strong aside from its nuclear capabilities but it's strong enough out of the ~200 countries in the world and it lives an uncomplicated life with no self-contradictions.
Vietnam went through similar if not even worse attrocities compared to North Korea, but the communist regime in Vietnam after isloating and victimising herself for a long time finally understandood they had to move one, open up and reform and join the modern world and even nornalised relations with the US(their former arch enemy).
Vietnam can't build shit compared to nuclear North Korea, which has all its own skyscrapers and people who never bowed to anyone. Westerners who see videos of North Korea pretend to themselves that everything is staged because a country that is this hated and feared in the West under decades long embargo by its enemies can't have buildings this nice, or streets this clean or people this organized and disciplined. Vietnam, on the other hand, is known as a brothel to the soldiers who attacked it. Its city nightlife is a sad sorrowful sight that makes you ashamed that they're Asian. When Westerners tour North Korea, they are educated people on their best behavior (so as not to end up like one Mr. Warmbier) and they go to learn the history and the culture. When Westerners visit Vietnam, they are low lifes going to get drunk, start fights, hire hookers and apparently, rob jewelry stores too. I'd be North Korean over Viet any day.
In life you jave to learn to move on and just learn from the past. Pyongyang is still living in the past, they never moved on.
1. They are living in the present, where America instills unrest and revolution as needed in countries foolish enough to lose control to American influence.
2. If your argument was that North Korea is not a brilliant tactician in developing itself, I'm fine with it. Your argument is that North Korea and China have a terrible relationship and China wishes North Korea would deweaponize. That's what I'm arguing against.
Shows the rgeime is insecured, scared and paranoid about everything and everybody. Lol cant keep blaming everybody but themselves. If laying blame and injustice was the norm of development and change in world then africa (who has the most tragic history) would be/shoule be the most developed or open country today giving all the unjustices they suffered and are still suffering. However life is not like that.
Nobody ever said that tragedy and suffering lead to great development or that North Korea was a shining star of development. You made all this strawman up. I don't even know what you are arguing or who you are arguing with. This is not a logical reply to my post.
