The guest speaker in the Mitchell Institute podcast on this paper said even the amount of hours in simulators is lacking.
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Judging by the j16 nose thickness to shelter thickness ratio I would say there is 3 to 3.5 m of concrete there. With over half a meter thick (steel ?) door.Hardened aircraft shelters.
That concrete roof is way more than a sdb bomb can punch through. And could be more than a blu109 penetrator could punch through. Though blu109 is old by now and has been superseded by newer penetrator which might be able to penetrate 3.5m of concrete. Still, those are 2000 lb bombs, and bombs would be hard to reach airbases anyway. Especially heavy ones, like Blu116 warhead equipped ones.
That being said, storm shadow did demonstrate a warhead punching through 3.5 or so meters of reinforced concrete, using its shaped charge precursor warhead.
Jsow c uses more or less the same precursor warhead, though that too is short in range.
Jassm allegedly does not use any shaped charge precursor and might thus not be able to offer significant penetration values. Might/should not be able to penetrate shown shelter.
On the other hand, newer tomahawk missiles (both blk iv and v?) do use a shaped charge precursor and might be able to offer similar penetration to the storm shadow.
Bottom line is - really cheap and plentiful weapons like bombs might not be able to penetrate the shelter. Or their parent aircraft might not reach the target.
Serious Stand off weapons with enough penetration might not be there in sufficient numbers to handle the shelters. Taking into account the sheer number of all the other types of targets, the saturation attack capability limits and Chinese missile defenses.
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not that's the threats, whether or not that's the blue force capabilities that we don't want to reveal in open air, there are things that we can only do in
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simulators. But again, there are things that you only get by flying in the air. And ultimately, when we ask these young
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men and women to go into combat, to go into bad guy land, they're going to be doing it airborne. And so they need to
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have those airborne sorties. Unfortunately, the Air Force is not giving them enough simulator time
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either. They're falling short of the the ready air crew program minimum numbers
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of that as well. There is no facet of this training program that's living up
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to the standards that it should be.
If pouring concrete is easy for them then road infrastructure in the states wouldn’t be in such a sorry state.
At the current rate it won’t be commie pilots they have to worry about — it would be Chad-Xi-PT piloted stealth drones.
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But but but Murican AI trained on freedom and liberty by white people will surely be superior???
They are perfectly capable of doing it, as demonstrated in Korea.
For whatever reason, they just....aren't.
They're contracting local Korean firms to do the work. They're not going through a futile effort of trying to bring a company from the US to do it. That's all there is to this.
Those hangars were probably built to stop ~150 kg penetrators of any kind. It seems they are also hardened against subsonic and general purpose warheads up to several hundred kilos. They are probably pre-emptively closing the garbage spam route to the USA. SDB, 500 lbs JDAM-ER, small cruise missiles like the SPEAR, motorized glide bombs such as the SPICE-250ER, JSM, LUCAS (the American Shahed), Harop, MALD with a warhead. All small stuff...
I find these hangars a good development because in an age when small and capable munitions are a commodity, having your aircraft unprotected is insane. Look at what happened to the Russians.