New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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Some gains in market share by smaller manufacturers with BYD relatively slower.

Leapmotor reported its
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of 30 million yuan ($4.2 million) on Tuesday. Xiaomi’s fledgling electric-car unit
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its operational loss to 300 million yuan in the second quarter and reckons it could turn profitable later this year.
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more than halved its own net loss to 1.1 billion yuan, and analysts at Bernstein now think it could break even in the fourth quarter.

They are doing well by other measures, too. Consultancy Automobility reckons $12.6 billion Leapmotor’s share of China's new energy vehicle market
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3.7% in the first half, more than double its 2022 level. Xiaomi, which started exploring EVs in 2021 and launched its first car last year, sold nearly 160,000 vehicles in the first half. Their shares have rallied by around 200% and 500% respectively since the first salvos of the price war were fired. BYD's Hong Kong-listed stock
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, by contrast, trails with a 75% rise; and while its market share has grown since 2022, its piece of the pie has recently fallen below 30%, compared with 33.8% a year ago.

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sndef888

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Nio ES8 has come out with a surprisingly low price of 410k with battery (still pretty high for normal people)

I think this might be another big attack on Li Auto, even Aito M8 M9 may be affected. And don't forget Aito M7 with a big redesign is coming out soon. It almost feels like everyone smells blood in the water and are all trying to kill off Li Auto
 
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sndef888

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What happened to Li Auto for there to be blood in the water?
There was a social media trend of posting Li Auto cars parked badly (lmao). This is actually more serious than it sounds because Li Auto's greatest strength has always been positioning and targeting a certain type of owner. Now their image has exploded and people are avoiding them like the plague.

Also, their 2 BEV launches (Mega and i8) have been duds for various reasons, while their bread and butter large SUV EREVs have been getting squeezed hard by Aito, LynknCo, Onvo and now Nio
 
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There was a social media trend of posting Li Auto cars parked badly (lmao). This is actually more serious than it sounds because Li Auto's greatest strength has always been positioning and targeting a certain type of owner. Now their image has exploded and people are avoiding them like the plague.

Also, their 2 BEV launches (Mega and i8) have been duds for various reasons, while their bread and butter large SUV EREVs have been getting squeezed hard by Aito, LynknCo, Onvo and now Nio
Goddamn, Chinese brands really like ending their names with the letter O.
 

Michael90

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Some gains in market share by smaller manufacturers with BYD relatively slower.



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Interesting. Seems BYD has slowed down due to intense competition in China, which is surprising since they looked untouchable just last year. Shows nothing is ever won until it is won. Will be interesting to see how the market pans out this coming years and who emerges as a clear winner/dominant player. Exciting times we are living in. :)
 

Michael90

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Nio ES8 has come out with a surprisingly low price of 410k with battery (still pretty high for normal people)

I think this might be another big attack on Li Auto, even Aito M8 M9 may be affected. And don't forget Aito M7 with a big redesign is coming out soon. It almost feels like everyone smells blood in the water and are all trying to kill off Li Auto
Chinese EV space is still too crowded with many players than needed. So many will need to die and be bought off/consolidated this coming years, it’s inevitable . Some predict that ideally China needs not more than 10 EV players at the end of the day. I believe it’s not far off from that time, as many other unprofitable and uncompetitive EV makers die and collapse or are bought off by other bigger players. Maybe by 2030 that’s the few who will survive.
 

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Interesting. Seems BYD has slowed down due to intense competition in China, which is surprising since they looked untouchable just last year. Shows nothing is ever won until it is won. Will be interesting to see how the market pans out this coming years and who emerges as a clear winner/dominant player. Exciting times we are living in. :)
BYD was the king due to its ruthless ability to scale down the cost. It is able to win price war consistently. These days CPC is limiting involution, so now BYD's advantage diminished.
 
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