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GulfLander

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More hatereading the Foreign Affairs.

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Some choice quotes:

"The Salt Typhoon attack was able to secure such wide-ranging access in part because of the fundamental asymmetry between the authoritarian approach Beijing takes to its cyberdefense and Washington’s more democratic perspective. American values forbid the kind of comprehensive monitoring that undergirds China’s cyberdefense and frees Beijing to pursue offensive operations with less fear of retaliation. And myriad private actors manage the United States’ critical infrastructure, with minimal government oversight or hands-on assistance. Their levels of investment in cybersecurity are variable, driven by commercial bottom lines. That means that when cyberattackers are found, it is hard to prove that they have been removed from networks or systems. Even when their removal appears certain, it is likely they will return."

My sides... The appratachiks who sit in offices and write those kind of drivel are living in an alternate reality.
Are there any pending bills in US Congress/senate on this issue?
 

Temstar

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Are there any pending bills in US Congress/senate on this issue?
Lol no.
How Salt Typhoon happened: basically US government went to all these tech vendors and asked them to build in backdoors that would allow US law enforcement to do surveillance via the backdoor instead of having to break through cryptography frontally with brute force.

Naturally the vendors told the US government this was an extremely bad idea because the government is basically asking them to add built in vulnerability to their tech stack. They told the government if such a vulnerability exist it's almost guaranteed eventually it will be exploited, if not by cybercriminals then certainly by enemy state actors who have vast resources. US government said never mind that just do it.

So it went down exactly as predicted. Chinese government hackers found out about these backdoor and took full advantage. Even so compromised US doesn't want to close these backdoors because they want to maintain the ability for their law enforcement to go in via the backdoor. US is instead opted to plug the holes as they are uncovered, thus making it a "my hackers vs your hacker" type deal rather then fixing the problem at the root.
 
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iewgnem

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More hatereading the Foreign Affairs.

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Some choice quotes:

"The Salt Typhoon attack was able to secure such wide-ranging access in part because of the fundamental asymmetry between the authoritarian approach Beijing takes to its cyberdefense and Washington’s more democratic perspective. American values forbid the kind of comprehensive monitoring that undergirds China’s cyberdefense and frees Beijing to pursue offensive operations with less fear of retaliation. And myriad private actors manage the United States’ critical infrastructure, with minimal government oversight or hands-on assistance. Their levels of investment in cybersecurity are variable, driven by commercial bottom lines. That means that when cyberattackers are found, it is hard to prove that they have been removed from networks or systems. Even when their removal appears certain, it is likely they will return."

My sides... The appratachiks who sit in offices and write those kind of drivel are living in an alternate reality.
"American values forbid the kind of comprehensive monitoring that undergirds China’s cyberdefense and frees Beijing to pursue offensive operations with less fear of retaliation"

Oh the irony, Salt Typhoon was only possible because America's comprehensive domestic spying
 

iewgnem

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Again, let me quote the most meme-able passage from this already highly meme-able piece:

See I told you the whole "inherit the red genes" slogan found at various PLA bases is hinting at a PLA Primarch Project aimed at producing gene seeds that when implanted into regular PLA troops would then them into transhuman super soldiers.

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Everyone's familiar with comrade Gordon, but Miles Yu is also a fascinating character: a Nankai history alumini, you know, the school known for educating Chinese public officials including Zhou Enlai, who supposedly got inspired by Regan's speech, move to the US in 1985 (not easy at the time if you're old enough to remember), and by 1994 became a professor of China studies at US naval college where he then spent the next 30 years influencing US China policy behind the scenes, until he became Pompeo's top China advisor in 2017.

And of course we all know how well America's China policy went over the last 30 years, lol

At this point, I could not even rule out he and Gordon snuck in the "galactic hegemony" quote as a joke.
 

plawolf

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There is a clear policy shift. Chances are the tech blockade is going to be weaken and the US is going to mass dump onto the Chinese market in an attempt to bankrupt domestic alternatives.



They don’t want China to develop domestic alternatives. It is clear why they are moving ahead with dumping H20 chips into China.

Too bad Trump already pre-emptively fuck that plan up with his trade wars and gift wrapped China then perfect weapon and pretext for its deployment. Wanna dump into China to kill Chinese manufacturers? Here, take. 500% reciprocal tariff and keep dumping and let’s see who dies first.
 

horse

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I'm all for making fun of Jai Hind's but this was/is the same argument made against China when it was making its way up the GDP ladder.

Okay, last few days reading about some Indian stuff, might as well go off on a short rant!

1. Maybe, that is the word, that is the answer to that question posed. But that argument was made over 30 years ago. By then, the term Confucian capitalism was used occasionally to describe the Japanese and the four tigers, being Hong Kong, Taiwan, South Korea, and strongman nation of Singapore. Lee Kwan Yiu was an unabashed Chinese we ever gonna find. Lee Kwan Yiu probably could have said, I am Chinese go fuck yourself, and we would not be surprised. They don't make leaders like that anymore. The only recent leader like that was Duterte and look where he is now. In short, other Chinese societies or Confucian societies rapidly industrialized, before China, the dragon who gave birth to a couple of those tigers, before China started its ascent.

2. If we were inside a factory 30 years, or inside a factory 20 years ago, or inside some relatively advanced factory 10 years ago, how much Indian manufacturing products do we expect to see? You have one guess. If we all said zero, we would be correct. Okay, what does that mean? Well, how much Indian input do we expect to find in a modern factory today!? The same answer. That most is the rant!

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3. A factory today, we must not forget what we really are talking about.

ONE, we need the capital. If someone has that, then TWO they need some expertise in whatever they were doing. Then since it is the modern day today, for your factory to survive making good products, you better be using automation with AI, so that is THREE know what and how modern manufacturing is like, that the factory must know something about an entirely different industry, automation (robotics) and software (AI).

In short, those are barriers to entry.

We do not read that term in the lying Liberal media much anymore, because they do not want to talk about it. The barriers to entry are real.

Take a look at Trump's trade war, and one objective is to bring back manufacturing. So, they would need the capital, the know how (for the product), and extra know how (for automation production).

Notice, that no new American company is doing that, it is the same American companies. Or Trump got the foreigners to most of it, haha! Haha!

TELSA was the only new kick ass American company. Their cars finally got their business going in the right direction after opening their Shanghai factory, and the government contracts made their space business.

Okay, back to India. They do not have ONE, TWO, or THREE, and given that how anti-foreign and anti-business the Indian government has always been and still is, there is no debate here. This is D.O.A.

I mean, if they want a competitive factory, they really need someone to import the whole damn thing. Who is willing to do that?

Ford did that, but they left. A few other examples of that apparently too.

That is why most talk out of India, about manufacturing, is so beyond clueless from those Indian commentators, who never been inside a factory, it is totally nuts, and they have no idea how nuts it is.

It is simply amazing to me. Haha!

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