2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

gelgoog

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For Iran to avoid joining Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria as beaten-down societies with blighted futures, it must put Persia in a museum and join the modern world as a self-interested nation-state aloof from the poisonous conflicts among its neighbors to the West. This means taking a hard look at a map and choosing where its future lies, no regrets and no recriminations. FM Abbas Araghchi and DM Aziz Nasirzadeh understand this. Will the remainder of Iran's complex governance join them...
Israel and the US would just continue conducting targeted assassinations and sabotage in Iran.
The only way to solve that is to close the borders, firewall the Internet, and massively increase surveillance in Iran.

Anyway, as the leader of the Shia strain of Islam you will continue to see Iran supporting Shia groups in the Middle East.

Israel calls Hezbollah terrorists, but they created Hezbollah when they invaded Lebanon and started terrorizing the population together with the falangists. As for the US bawling its eyes at US troops getting bombed in Beirut just ask yourself what was the US doing there in the first place. They were covering Israel's ass after Israel started getting its butt kicked when they went into Beirut and got into a city fighting quagmire. The US pretended they were there as a peacekeeper interposition force. Far from it.
 
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doggydogdo

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-26/iran-caused-3-billion-of-damage-with-missile-strikes-on-israel“
Israel has estimated the cost of damages incurred during its 12-day war with Iran at 10 billion shekels ($3 billion), with funds needed both to repair missile-hit buildings and pay compensation to local businesses.
The calculations shared by the Israeli finance ministry and tax body this week indicate the extent to which Iran broke through Israel’s defenses during nearly two weeks of rocket fire.
This is the greatest challenge we’ve faced — there has never been this amount of damage in Israel’s history,” Shay Aharonovich, the director general of Israel’s Tax Authority who’s in charge of paying out compensation, told reporters.
The sum doesn’t include the cost to Israel of replacing weapons and defense systems used in the campaign, which is likely to push the total figure much higher when assessments are complete.
Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich told a press conference the total cost of war could be as high as $12 billion, while Bank of Israel Governor Amir Yaron put the figure at about half that when
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on Wednesday. Whatever the final figure, that presents a challenge to an economy already strained by 20 months of wider conflict.
Pretty insane figures, Iran definitely hit some important targets that has been erased by Israeli censors
 

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Among the terms being discussed, which have not been previously reported, is an estimated $20-30 billion investment in a new Iranian non-enrichment nuclear program that would be used for civilian energy purposes, Trump administration officials and sources familiar with the proposal told CNN. One official insisted that money would not come directly from the US, which prefers its Arab partners foot the bill. Investment in Iran’s nuclear energy facilities has been discussed in previous rounds of nuclear talks in recent months.

“The US is willing to lead these talks” with Iran, the Trump administration official told CNN. “And someone is going to need to pay for the nuclear program to be built, but we will not make that commitment.”

Other incentives include potentially removing some sanctions on Iran and allowing Tehran to access the $6 billion currently sitting in foreign bank accounts that it is restricted from freely using, according to the draft described to CNN.

Another idea floated last week that is currently being considered is for US-backed allies in the Gulf to pay to replace the Fordow nuclear facility – which the US hit with bunker-buster bombs over the weekend – with the non-enrichment program, two sources familiar with the matter said. It was not immediately clear if Iran would be able to use the site itself, nor was it clear how seriously that proposal was being considered.
 

AlexYe

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-26/iran-caused-3-billion-of-damage-with-missile-strikes-on-israel“

Pretty insane figures, Iran definitely hit some important targets that has been erased by Israeli censors
I saw another one that is this, pictures to some doc that has since been deleted, this is just the civilian stuff.
Ministry of Defense demanded 60 billion shekels in emergency allocations to sustain operations.

Also it seems that 3 of these are alive, Like one of the generals that was seen on tv, more have been seen during celebrations
Admiral Ali Shamkhani ,Gen. Esmail Qaani, Gen. Abdulrahim Mousavi.

And it seems like Iran did have some 'unifying' effect
 

CMP

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I saw another one that is this, pictures to some doc that has since been deleted, this is just the civilian stuff.


Also it seems that 3 of these are alive, Like one of the generals that was seen on tv, more have been seen during celebrations
Admiral Ali Shamkhani ,Gen. Esmail Qaani, Gen. Abdulrahim Mousavi.

And it seems like Iran did have some 'unifying' effect
To be fair, that's a pretty small venue. It's also hard to say how those who lost homes or businesses will feel and whether there will be sufficient (if any) state support for them to recover losses.
 

gelgoog

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Iran is already building two nuclear power plants with Russian help, Bushehr-3/4. Those will likely cost around $10 billion USD. And they have plans to build four more.

The US also promised to build civilian nuclear power plants in North Korea and then reneged on the deal. Iran would be foolish to accept it.
 
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