2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

AlexYe

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Indian nationals don't have to be operatives. They can just be regular workers hired for assembly and logistics work. Indian authorities absolutely have the ability to facilitate Indian workers to Iran, and through that, clandestinely put them to work on covert ops. I would wager most of the people that have been arrested had no idea they were working for Mossad.
Yeah I agree, there is some damage-control going on too, where Iran prob wants to portray the 'betrayals' coming from non-iranians more (Afghans, indians etc), They are prob people that didnt even know who they were working for, just easy/quick money for them.
I doubt its a proper raw-mossad op.. but who knows.

Meanwhile Iran's FM talks with Eu delegation

And found this video about bunker busters how its not so simple, Maybe this video was posted here before?
 

texx1

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EU and Iranian diplomats are meeting in Geneva hoping for a new deal.

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GENEVA, June 20 (Reuters) - European foreign ministers met their Iranian counterpart on Friday hoping to test Tehran's readiness to negotiate a new nuclear deal despite there being scant prospect of Israel ceasing its attacks soon, diplomats said.

European ministers spoke in advance to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio who signalled the U.S. is open to direct talks even as it considers joining Israeli strikes intended to smash Tehran's nuclear capacity, the sources said.

The Trump administration is demanding Iran stop uranium enrichment altogether, whereas the E3 have in past talks left it some scope to enrich for civil ends in exchange for extremely strict international inspections.
On Friday, French President Emmanuel Macron shifted closer to Trump's position, saying that any new deal with Tehran needed to go towards zero enrichment.

A senior Iranian official told Reuters Iran is ready to discuss limitations on its uranium enrichment but said the prospect of zero enrichment would undoubtedly be rejected, especially while Israel was attacking.

The main message Europeans will pass to Araqchi is that the U.S. has signalled readiness for direct talks, but that Iran must give a serious signal, two European diplomats said, without defining what the signal should be.

While diplomats did not expect a breakthrough in Geneva, they said it was vital to engage with Iran because once the war stopped the nuclear issue would remain unresolved given that Tehran would still retain the scientific know-how.
 

tokenanalyst

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This is the issue I have with these "accurate" strikes of Israel. I don't think they are doing the big substantial damage that they would hope for. If this was done by US or Russia, the whole complex facility would be demolished to rubble. The US using carpet bombing and Russia using massive thermobaric warheads. The Israeli air force is overstretching themselves doing these strikes.

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texx1

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More updates on Iranian nuclear program from IAEA briefing to UNSC

On Friday, IAF again bombed Esfahan nuclear facility damaging four buildings: the central chemical laboratory, a uranium conversion plant, the Tehran reactor fuel manufacturing plant, and the enriched uranium metal processing facility.

On June 19th, IAF bombed Khondab (former Arak) Heavy Water Research Reactor which is still under construction, key buildings including distillation unit were hit.

No damage at Fordow

IAEA warns strike on Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant could cause serious nuclear disaster.

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iewgnem

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I don't want to belittle the Iranian capability, BUT from the looks of things aside from 2 Chinese intelligence ship, the Chinese may have airlifted missile guidance like Beidou module and transmitter.

OR maybe advance EW

Recent claims suggest Chinese aircraft may have delivered electronic warfare (EW) systems to Iran. This is based on flight tracking images and social media posts, though official confirmation is lacking.
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that the main airline involved is Cargolux, which is not Chinese.

Several X-accounts (formerly Twitter) have been circulating images of flight tracking data purportedly showing Chinese cargo planes landing in Iran. These claims coincide with the ongoing Israel-Iran conflict. While the specific nature of the cargo is not confirmed, the implication is that China is supplying Iran with EW technology.

It's important to note that these are unconfirmed claims, and the aircraft involved may be connected to other activities or simply be routine cargo flights. There's no official confirmation from China, Iran, or any other credible source about the delivery of EW systems.

China and Iran have a 25-year cooperation agreement, and China is a major importer of Iranian oil. This relationship could be a factor in the current situation, but it doesn't automatically confirm the delivery of EW systems.
There are so many things one can do without going public, or without Iran even having to ask:
- If Iran receive regular cold emails from anonymous senders with latest satellite photos of Israel, which happen to be very helpful for damage assessment or locating AD, who is to say who sent it.
- If Iran starts getting anonymous packet of intercepted communications between Israel and agents in Iran via a mysterious country's HUMINT or SIGINT assets, it could just be Iranian counter-intel finally getting good.
- If satellites with video capability tracked the path of a Israeli agent's car from launching a drone to going back to their hideout, and Iran gets an anonymous tip of where to look for that hideout, who is to say Iran didn't just get lucky.
- If Iran gets a simple red and green indicator of when Israeli jets are over an area and it's safe for missile launchers to drive out of their underground base, who is to say it's not just a coincidence.
- And of course, just like Russia, Iran is fully within their rights to buy things with money they made from selling oil, like washing machines.

Etc, etc.
 
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