2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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Various derailing non-news posts mentioning China deleted and users reply banned to this thread for 12/24 hours.
Close to 50 pages have been added to this thread in the last 24 hour, all the off topic posts irrelevant to the current conflict needs to stop.
The moderators could be stricter here, there is a lot of off-topic conversation, even the conversations within the topic are just speculation and nothing about the facts that occurred in the conflict. I log in to get updated and read pages and pages of discussions that have nothing to do with the events of the conflict.
Can someone create a separate thread for tangentially related topics?
I think you misunderstood what happened there. Both Pakistan and Iran unfortunately have actual terrorist organizations in both countries that are hard to deal with. The governments themselves don't want to deal with them for fear of a revolution. So both sides bombing the terrorists turned out to be a fantastic solution as they can blame the other side while actively doing nothing in return. You'll notice that after those strikes, terrorist attacks against Chinese citizens have stopped. It was a warning to the terrorists, not an actual conflict between Pakistan and Iran.
I think it's just old stuffs vs new stuffs, there's no reason they can't use beidou or gps even without mil code you can get accuracy down to sub 10m.
Iran's salvo maybe bottlenecked in number of TELs, which are being hunted. I thought they should have more silo based missiles but apparently not
It's always the same thing. Conflict starts, huge fog of war, intense misinformation, war propaganda, etc. The same people as always start drawing conclusions and not even 96h has passed. ''the future of warfare is clearly going to be like this'', ''it's incredible that this happened''... you don't even know what's actually happening. i have been following most of the 'osint' guys on twitter/telegram for the last 96h and i couldn't say anything about the state of the iranian missile arsenal, about the state of the iranian command.
''Air defense'' has been active for the last hours in tehran, israel is clearly trying to gain air dominance over iran (not overly difficult considering that iran air force is basically old F-14+domestic IADS).
The other thing is about the state of the iranian nuclear program, are underground facilites still operating? we don't know yet.
Countries tend to be very resilient, even more if you are attacking from that far and with so 'few' aircraft, yes, you can destoy most of the static facilities, after that, there is not much you can do from the air if there is not a ground force backing you up.
Iran is going to eat a lot of damage, we all know it... but they can do a lot of damage too... and after suffering damage and dealing damage...
they may have 2000+ ballistic missiles that can reach israel... and? israel can recieve damage too...
in the first 12h of the israeli attack on iran, everyone was saying... iran is over, they can't even retaliate, and they did, and everyone was again like ''we are so back''... and it's not like that!
lol if they don't give up nukes they'll be hit hard. If they do give up nukes they'll get hit even harder. This is not about nukes, they want to do Iran in
