2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

delfer

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Anybody else starting to get pissed off? Seeing Israel act with such impunity and smugness, doing whatever it wants with its “western superiority” while Iran just sits and takes it like a wimp, is literally making me see red.
 

Mmmeeeto

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What is the source of assumption that Iran harbors hostility towards China?

China has the same relationship of mutual benefit with Iran much like Africa belt and road countries
 

gadgetcool5

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Unfortunately, China and Russia are losing another possible ally. In a few years, the US will have bases on Iranian territory and another encirclement of China and Russia. Russia helped at least with some weapons, unfortunately it is at war. Moreover, it has a fairly large Jewish lobby in the form of oligarchs, where they are the absolute majority. And China, oh yes, a few warm words. Well, it missed the opportunity. Soon it may be alone, in full encirclement.
I am extremely saddened by the whole incident.
Agreed, China should've armed them long ago. But they are still alive right now, and I think they have a chance. The Israelis' best advantage are their intelligence and element of surprise, but that becomes less effective the more it is used, because people (no matter how stupid) eventually start to get wise and develop countermeasures. It really depends on the Iranian people. Of course, I hope that China steps up its support to anyone who is willing to stand up to the U.S. & Israel in the Middle East & around the world, because although their hard power is impressive, their soft power is profoundly negative at this time.
 

zyklon

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Why has it taken Iran so long to respond? Does it just take that much time for them to prepare their attack? Or did Israel really do serious damage to their organizational structure with these strikes?

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, Israel hobbled Iranian retaliatory strikes by:

They destroyed it, killing the overall commander and the heads of the drone and air defense forces. "The fact that there was nobody to give the order neutralized an immediate Iranian response," an Israeli official said.

The Israelis love to embellish their successes, but this is also not an unreasonable scenario.

I always thought that striking Iranian nuclear facilities and targets in Iran was supposed to be very difficult for Israel? Especially without a direct role of US aerial refueling support. Has something changed with Israel’s capabilities in the time since then?

Also, these have been the strike Israel has been talking about conducting for decades. How many times have we heard threats around Israel striking Iran over the last two decades?

Israel has apparently found a way to effectively neutralize Iranian air defenses, at least temporarily.

Anybody else starting to get pissed off? Seeing Israel act with such impunity and smugness, doing whatever it wants with its “western superiority” while Iran just sits and takes it like a wimp, is literally making me see red.

The strong do as they will and the weak suffer as they must.
 

Almond98

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If Iran cannot help itself, then nobody can. Iran can lose a battle, but it should not live in an illusion.

Iran cannot place its hopes in the West while simultaneously despising China, and then under these circumstances expect China to help it. Given the level of Israeli infiltration in Iran, even if J-35 fighters and HQ-9 arrived, they would likely be destroyed on the ground.
I didn't meant like that. I mean the one who can confront and end american empire is china. For long time I believe when there is going to be major war these 3 is going to simultaneously attack american base. Which would lead to the end of american empire. But now it's just china...
 

Michael90

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Agreed, China should've armed them long ago. But they are still alive right now, and I think they have a chance. The Israelis' best advantage are their intelligence and element of surprise, but that becomes less effective the more it is used, because people (no matter how stupid) eventually start to get wise and develop countermeasures. It really depends on the Iranian people. Of course, I hope that China steps up its support to anyone who is willing to stand up to the U.S. & Israel in the Middle East & around the world, because although their hard power is impressive, their soft power is profoundly negative at this time.
I'm. Sorry, that's wishful thinking. There is zero indication the CCP will suddenly change her foreign policy just for iran. Especially not for a far flung conflict which is much more complex than a simple anti US stance. Seems you don't consider what other gulf Arab states (where China has far more interests than it will ever have in the current Iran) will be okay with that.. In short this conflict is much more complex than you make it sound.
Moreover you guys should calm down a bit. Its not the end of Iran. They will still retaliate. The only point is how successful their retaliation will be. And if the US might intervene in a future conflict
 
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