At least he's set the line straight that this whole thing was an US sanctioned operation.
2025 Israel - Iranian conflict
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At least he's set the line straight that this whole thing was an US sanctioned operation.
Israel wouldnt engage in a high risk operation against a compotent airforce.
Even having one pilot as a prisoner of war is something Israel doesn't want to risk.
Israel would still have the upper hand overral
The best outcome at this stage is that the US and Israel get stuck in another drawn out decentralized conflict, but given Iran's apparent lack of competence, expectations are not high
Despite appearances, Iran actually behaves very similar to India in many ways.
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I guess its coz China knows Israel is a merchant state that ultimately cares about business first and foremost. As long as Israel can provide what China wants for the right price, China will do business. And in fact Israel has even sold some US military tech secrets to China pissing off the US but Israel as we know just told the US to pipe down and that was it.
Honestly I'm amazed that China can do business with almost any country even if they hate its guts as long as the price is right. Especially with Israel who are known to be ruthless businessmen who can swindle you if you are not careful or prepared. Ironic that historically China hated merchants yet can give merchant countries a run for their money when it comes to business deals.
They have literal operatives on ground, come on.
I doubt even 1 of them is an Israeli. Probably all local Iranian agents.
I'm actually glad that China neither provided any sort of military support/aid nor form any military partnership/alliance in West Asia/Middle East. The only things China do with her military presence in the region are the anti-piracy patrols around Somalia and the peacekeeping forces in Lebanon under the auspices of the UN.
No matter how hard the calls for China to "step in, become the responsible big brother, and salvage XXX situations" - If those country's people themselves don't want to help themselves, then what's in for China to help them?
Imagine getting involved knee-deep in this kind of sh1t.
Besides, it's not like Iran is chummy with China either. The Iranian people/discourse even jeered at the Chinese people with the "Ching Chong Chang" types of racist slurs, while licking the boots of the West despite being slapped in the face multiple times - All while China is one of the only few countries that are keeping the country afloat in amongst those crushing international sanctions. Remember that Chabahar Port deal with India in order to "counter China's Gwadar Port in Pakistan", etc?
Just go take a look around the military-watching discourse on Weibo - They don't exactly have a positive, flowery view of Iran, even way before today's Israeli strike. "伊朗要升旗了" and "伊朗变成了筛子" are not phrases of compliment.
I'd say this - Iran better gets its sh1t together, stop the "we wuz" kanging sh1t, and actually be humble in their dealings with China. Otherwise, good luck.
No matter how hard the calls for China to "step in, become the responsible big brother, and salvage XXX situations" - If those country's people themselves don't want to help themselves, then what's in for China to help them?
Imagine getting involved knee-deep in this kind of sh1t.
Besides, it's not like Iran is chummy with China either. The Iranian people/discourse even jeered at the Chinese people with the "Ching Chong Chang" types of racist slurs, while licking the boots of the West despite being slapped in the face multiple times - All while China is one of the only few countries that are keeping the country afloat in amongst those crushing international sanctions. Remember that Chabahar Port deal with India in order to "counter China's Gwadar Port in Pakistan", etc?
Just go take a look around the military-watching discourse on Weibo - They don't exactly have a positive, flowery view of Iran, even way before today's Israeli strike. "伊朗要升旗了" and "伊朗变成了筛子" are not phrases of compliment.
I'd say this - Iran better gets its sh1t together, stop the "we wuz" kanging sh1t, and actually be humble in their dealings with China. Otherwise, good luck.
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No one is sure the extent of the damage operatives have done.
I think they were launching drones from a far distance at air defence systems.
Maybe keeping aircraft in protected hangers would be a good idea
Their fault for selling their anti drone laser system to russia
A handful of J-10CEs and a KJ-500 is a extremely low bar for a competent and strong airforce especially when Iran literally have no way of defending it's own airfields. They are getting drone striked from their own land by their own people.
It doesn't, though. If they cared that much about trade, their pager attacks that showed how compromised production lines in Asia can be wouldn't have been carried out.
They will turn on you at the slightest inconvenience to their interests and they don't do compromises unless it is at gunpoint (1982, 2006). Also they are open supporters of ETIM and they look up to Israel as well, what do you think will happen when they face the slightest push back from China?.
Like I said, too much attachment to a one off that has already been paid back for and currently holds no value as Israel can't provide anything of value anymore in that regard.
It is a double edged sword. You would think China would have learnt that lesson after getting Color Revolution'd anyway despite doing Kissinger's biding in South East Asia in exchange for more open trade.