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BlackWindMnt

Captain
Registered Member
Not much. China has shown again and again that they are willing to agree to humiliating deals just to please the west. They recently ended sanctions on European parliament members without reciprocal removal of sanctions on China.
Those sanctions on individuals were removed to get talks with the EU going again.
Its not like they had any material advantage or disadvantage they were more symbolic than pressure.
 

escobar

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Phead128

Major
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
Not much. China has shown again and again that they are willing to agree to humiliating deals just to please the west. They recently ended sanctions on European parliament members without reciprocal removal of sanctions on China.
I hear that China will be getting it's EV tariffs removed (minimum price instead which is very favorable for Chinese EV makers), so please be patient.
The recent deal where China keeps 10% tariff while US keeps 30% was also unequal.
The +20% is due to fentanyl-related action, and is before April 6th "liberation day" tariffs. So as far as reciprocal tariffs, China achieved equality. Fentanyl cooperation is a low-hanging fruit, easy to "fix." Please be patient.
 

BillRamengod

Junior Member
Registered Member
Guys calm down, can't you see what's really important is what he not say?
He is just playing the 'I'm a tough hard businessman, this is ArT 0f dEA1' bullshit to his MAGAtard fellow to fufill the MAGA narrative. It just a word game.
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Wanna guess how much information is hidden behind this word?
 

Jiang ZeminFanboy

Senior Member
Registered Member
Guys calm down, can't you see what's really important is what he not say?
He is just playing the 'I'm a tough hard businessman, this is ArT 0f dEA1' bullshit to his MAGAtard fellow to fufill the MAGA narrative. It just a word game.
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Wanna guess how much information is hidden behind this word?
We'll see, but if this deal only includes like Chinese EV in USA and nVidia chips then that's not worth it. EU will be coming next for similar deal, European retail is in shambles thanks to Temu, Shein and Alibaba. If you can blackmail China, and then make an unequal treaty, then better would be no deal at all.
 

huemens

Junior Member
Registered Member
The recent deal where China keeps 10% tariff while US keeps 30% was also unequal.
It was actually 10% vs 10% "Liberation day tariffs" from both sides. The other 20% from the US side is "fentanyl tariff". China has separate targeted retaliatory tariffs against "fentanyl tariffs" on specific classes of goods. That was retained on Chinese side too. So it was an equal deal more or less.
They just mention Chinese 10% (Only Liberation day) vs US 30% (Liberation day 10% + Fentanyl 20%), without mentioning Chinese "fentanyl tariff" retaliatory measures (which are still retained by China after Geneva deal), to make the headlines look good for US public.

The new number trump is mentioning is The above 30% + the previously existing 25% from Trump's first administration. IIRC, China had it's own retaliatory measures for that 25% from Trump's first administration too.
 
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