The Kashmir conflict 2025.

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Hayek

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Maikeru said:
Yeah, that sounds a lot like cope to me. Chinese AAMs and avionics being far more advanced than whatever prehistoric junk Russia has to make do with.
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I’ve studied the terrain map carefully, and the mountainous border area between Pakistan and China really is an ideal cover. If I were the Chief of Air Staff in Pakistan, I would definitely position my key forces along the Pakistan-China border, with aircraft facing toward the Rafales. It offers excellent concealment, with a third country (China) in between, and dramatic elevation differences in the valleys.
From the front, you only need to conduct holding actions — the real killing comes from the flank. A direct attack from the side is extremely deadly.
This tactic is absolutely feasible from an operational standpoint. Pakistan has released a lot of misinformation and distractions during their press briefings.
 
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Observer1 said:
Well there's a variety of possible reasons for this, such as government initiated blackouts, limited internet access, limited public cameras to capture strikes, etc. We've seen India employ a very high level of censorship that blocked thousands of social media accounts.

I think in the age of social media it's hard to avoid such clips, most footage even credible analysts and think tanks are using to come to a conclusion is from Twitter/TikTok/FB.
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There are way more clout chasers in this part of the world than anything. There is no universe in which the government will be able to suppress everyone. A few thousand accounts vs millions of people living in the area? I'm not doubting the shootdown at all, but quality of footage should at least approach anything from rus/ukr before even being posted here. Even major military subreddits have placed a ban on this topic due to the amount of junk being posted and they have a far laxer moderation style than SDF.
 
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tankphobia said:
There are way more clout chasers in this part of the world than anything. There is no universe in which the government will be able to suppress everyone. A few thousand accounts vs millions of people living in the area? I'm not doubting the shootdown at all, but quality of footage should at least approach anything from rus/ukr before even being posted here. Even major military subreddits have placed a ban on this topic due to the amount of junk being posted and they have a far laxer moderation style than SDF.
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The shoot downs happened at night and over Indian territory. They had plenty of time to remove evidence before better videos/images could be taken. Even so we still got high def photos of engines, pylons, even a damaged HUD.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
The shoot downs happened at night and over Indian territory. They had plenty of time to remove evidence before better videos/images could be taken. Even so we still got high def photos of engines, pylons, even a damaged HUD.
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It's not really the plane shoot down content, those are plenty fine. It's the random smoke in the distance = military base destroyed fluff people have been posting.
 
Observer1

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Hayek said:
I’ve also seen a Russian military intelligence report. According to Russian intelligence sources, when India’s northern fighter formation was attacked, the missile attacks came from the side. The Russian source assessed that the PL-15E’s NEZ (No-Escape Zone) is between 40km to 50km, and the kills in the northern area were extremely dense. Analysis of the terrain showed that the mountains in the north are very suitable for concealment.
In addition, most of the PL-15E debris was found in the direction of the southern formation, and the south only recorded one Rafale being hit. This suggests that the PL-15E attacks on the southern group did not achieve the expected results, while the northern area saw concentrated combat effectiveness.
Therefore, the Russians believe that the attacks on the Su-30MKI and MiG-29 in the north came from the side, while the attack on the Rafale in the south was head-on.
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Can you link it please?
 
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