The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[burritocannon]

If it truly reaches mach 5 in air to air profile with 300km range, it could easily hit mach 5.5-6 in air to ground with 350-400km range, more than enough warhead size / kinetic energy to knock out radars.

dont think about max speed here like the spedometer on your car. its not gonna accelerate to mach 5 and just stay there. its gonna peak at that speed momentarily and then slow down again. and peak speed is going to be achieved in the most favorable regime -- at high altitudes. remember air density is much higher down close to the surface, shooting high to low will see the missile decelerate almost like shooting bullets into water. long ranged missiles invariably will follow some sort of lofted trajectory to spend as much time as possible up high to reduce the amount of air resistance faced, but at the end of the day what goes on at 80,000ft is not the same as what the missile has to deal with in its final moments closing with the target.

cherrypicking superlatives out of context is just another one of those little shitty tricks of storytellers to make their stories sound cooler.

 

[Observer1]

"The recent military engagement over Kashmir by South Asia’s arch enemies saw India deploy its French and US weapons against Pakistan’s new range of sophisticated Chinese arms. In its first battlefield test against Western arms, Chinese weapons mostly hit the mark, sparking interest in some military circles and alarm in some capitals."

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[FriedRiceNSpice]

"The recent military engagement over Kashmir by South Asia’s arch enemies saw India deploy its French and US weapons against Pakistan’s new range of sophisticated Chinese arms. In its first battlefield test against Western arms, Chinese weapons mostly hit the mark, sparking interest in some military circles and alarm in some capitals."

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This was posted on the previous page, coincidentally by another "observer".

 

[RoastGooseHKer]

Either they were actual PL-15 (not PL-15E) or the PL-15E has a much longer range than estimates (145km.)

Maybe we can shift things upward. The PL-15 is 350-400 km while the PL-15E is 200 to 250km? Can't imagine a hit at the very edge of its envelope so probably 250km?

Yazhou (6:35 - 9:00) was talking about how the PL-15E's actual permissible range depends on software installed inside the missile, not the actually hardware design/engineering limit. The permissible range allowed by the installed software depends on how close the client's diplomatic/strategic relationship is with China. Also, the 145km range advertised is likely very vague, subjective and dependent upon situation. In other words, should China permit Pakistan to use the full 200+km range via software update, Pakistan could do it. It is somewhat similar to the alleged 'kill switch' on the F-35 (bad comparison, sorry).

Therefore, if the alleged 190km kill shot were true, the version of PL-15E sold to Pakistan would indeed be very similar to those used by the PLAAF.

 

[xyz4321]

Nobody mentioned it yet in the thread...

Pakistan Army ground troops crossed the border and captured land across the borders of southern Punjab, Sialkot, and Kashmir.

Troops will return from southern Punjab and Sialkot, return land to India. But not from Kashmir because Pakistan does not recognize it as Indian. The deepest incursion in Kashmir is 10mi.

 

[Tomboy]

Nobody mentioned it yet in the thread...

Pakistan Army ground troops crossed the border and captured land across the borders of southern Punjab, Sialkot, and Kashmir.

Troops will return from southern Punjab and Sialkot, return land to India. But not from Kashmir because Pakistan does not recognize it as Indian. The deepest incursion in Kashmir is 10mi.

Wait so Pakistan actually captured land? I'm assuming the LoC is going to get redrawn soon if this is true

 

[siegecrossbow]

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[Ringsword]

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Never mind J-10CE,PL15AAM,aerial-killbox,AWACS......our deadliest weapon(on the net) just might be brother Hao GeGe his truly unique and funny(nearly pissed my pants funny) has truly locked on/destroyed the smug,China-hating-in-every-word-everyday Crux,WION and Palki Sharma-these idiots are just going ballistic at Brother Hao's troll missile hits-got to get him MSS protection

 

[siegecrossbow]

I’ve read up on the gruesome details of the terror attack that triggered the whole mess and after cross checking the sources, I think we can rule it out as a false flag attack. It is too emasculating for the BJP decision makers to propose something like this. Even if it is a false flag, my opinion is that it is not planned by India but an outside party.

 

[crazyinsane105]

Nobody mentioned it yet in the thread...

Pakistan Army ground troops crossed the border and captured land across the borders of southern Punjab, Sialkot, and Kashmir.

Troops will return from southern Punjab and Sialkot, return land to India. But not from Kashmir because Pakistan does not recognize it as Indian. The deepest incursion in Kashmir is 10mi.

Not one bit true. There are international observers posted along both sides of the border to monitor just that, and any movement of troops on either side of the border will get ridiculous scrutiny from whoever is in possession of a cell phone.

Crossing the border and capturing land is literally a declaration of war, and honestly Pakistan shouldn’t even think about this as capturing land is one thing..holding it is another.