The Kashmir conflict 2025.

[enroger]

I don’t think they invested in it as big as India did but should have domestic and Turkish systems.

I'd say that is a mistake on their part to neglect drone development as it is the great equalizer for the weaker player (despite Indian incompetence they'll still objectively the much stronger side).

Lucky for them with China on their side they can literally change around with the snap of a finger

 

[siegecrossbow]

This is nothing, you forgot that they manufactured an entire F-16 shootdown in 2019.

I hoped that they would dream up another one of these fabrications instead of this drone warfare nonsense. Would have been easier and cheaper.

Even the French are lying now omg. But I’d like to commend the French people for honestly reporting this. Maybe my expectations are just too low from dealing with Indians?

I'd say that is a mistake on their part to neglect drone development as it is the great equalizer for the weaker player (despite Indian incompetence they'll still objectively the much stronger side).

Lucky for them with China on their side they can literally change around with the snap of a finger

Yeah if the IAF stops doing big glitzy offensives with high valued aerial assets (which they suck at) and go for massed drone attacks like how Iran has successfully pulled it off it can be a major headache.

 

[defenceman]

Hi,
@siegecrossbow , @Deino, guys a Qs for you is it possible for a fighter pilot
to record all the video evidence till all the way from firing Pl15 till it find its target
after returning back to base, then share it with base commander etc
if this my assumption is true, then Pakistan might have shared this video evidence
with China already if not with France or might be shared with Qatar to share it with
France,
if possible to answer my thought
thank you

 

[Ringsword]

Ironic Indian has the reputation of shameless bargainer yet they never seems to get a good deal on arms

It's always good to see the scammer get scammed-I've refrained from posting simply because there's been so much information/disinformation/misinformation and outright lies/insane denial.But as facts are peeking out -the J10C /PL15 performed magnificently and congratulations to PAF who were/are good,humble,hard-working students who excelled in their "final exams".Too bad the wreckage of the-3-5 downed IAF jets were not recovered in Pak territory to really roast the Jaihinds-other then the great air victory/repulsing of IAF -on the other hand ,a reverse IAF victory of this type would greatly embolden Indian aggression against China itself.Not good for the Chinese calculus of the Asia Pacific theater.

 

[00CuriousObserver]

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More pictures

This is supposedly the P15E12203023 missile

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Allegedly another picture of this PL-15E

 

[neutralobserver]

I'd say that is a mistake on their part to neglect drone development as it is the great equalizer for the weaker player (despite Indian incompetence they'll still objectively the much stronger side).

Lucky for them with China on their side they can literally change around with the snap of a finger

Pakistan has bigger drone fleet then India but not enough kamikaze/loiter drones. Should buy them ASAP.

 

[Temstar]

Sure enough this aerial battle is the topic of Shilao and Yankee's stream today, it's starting now:

Ayi is represented by that stuffed doll because he's in Moscow for the victory parade.

 

[Deino]

Okay guys... I'm a little late to the party due to personal and professional commitments, and I don't want to spoil the celebrations in any way. Yes, the facts are out there, it was a worthy performance by the PAF and/or the aircraft involved, and it's a shameful tragedy on the Indian side, but...

1. Not every piece of nonsense needs to be posted from every stupid website and then we get artificially upset about it.

2. Given the many fake reports and wild activities by fanatic keyboard warriors on both sides, we must always be cautious and double-check rather than simply presenting unproven rumors as facts.

3. We will not tolerate political commentary or derogatory comments against either side, just as we will refrain from boasting and stupid nationalism.

4. Personal insults and defamation of the other side through inappropriate language will be refrained... or will be punished from now on, exactly as stated in the rules!

Let‘s keep this discussion civilised and hope that both sides return to other means to solve this issue!

 

[Temstar]

Hahahahaha:

 

[tygyg1111]

perhaps the french should tell the iaf to buy insurance against every loss of rafale?

Most insurers decline to insure after three consecutive at-fault accidents