proelite
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Only the ones with good work ethic. It doesn't matter what race, gender, political affiliation, etc are.
China demographics thread.
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Only the ones with good work ethic. It doesn't matter what race, gender, political affiliation, etc are.
And no nepo babies. We’ve seen what the fuckers did to their previous host.
If you look at the immigration habits of other people, only East Asians and South East Asians for some reason do not seek to conquer or dominate other cultures in their host nations. The Chinese are the nicest ones among that group. Others demand or attempt to force the host nation to accept their culture, especially the cultures whose men have a toxic mentality of trying to dominate others. In the United States, even the supposed emasculated liberal men exhibit these traits of attempting to dominate others via shame tactics and passive aggressiveness.
In my opinion, my incredibly hot take is that only single women should have an easier time to immigrate into the country as long as they have the traits you described. Men, on the other hand, must exhibit all of those traits and have an exceptional resume or join a job that makes them valuable (being an engineer, scientist, legal advisor and etc) or shows their willingness to be loyal (joining a theoretical military foreign legion whose leadership are all Chinese).
In general, I don't see anything to worry about with the demographics situtation unless China goes full retard and start enacting the immigration policies of the West to "compete" with them demographically:
The numbers are probably far worse with the refugees in Europe:
proelite
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I think a better comparison for China with immigrants would be UAE or Singapore. They'll know what they'll doing at the top.
There are over 50 million if not closer to 100 million people of Chinese descent outside of China. Good pool to draw from.
As a father of a beautiful daughter, I have to say that I should not condemn feminism and oppose women's right to choose their future. I want my daughter to eventually be married to a spouse she so chooses and be responsible for herself accordingly. I also want her to be able to fairly compete for college entrance and in the job market through merit.
Having said that I do find the South Korea radical feminists (6B4T) and radical feminists with Chinese characteristics "中华田园女权", as Mainlanders call them, as whole-of-society threats against their respective countries and communities. 6B4T is one of the main causes of South Korea's population decline. Whilst South Korean men had to serve their country and mostly serve as bread winners, these 6B4T folks do not have a slight sense of gratefulness for their defenders. Now they are the main drivers of their country's demographic crisis and continue to demonise pretty much all Korean men.
As with the radical Chinese feminists (yes, lots of HK ladies are like that, too), their traits are similar but not exactly the same. These traits are: hatred and disdain for most Chinese men, white (and recently blacks and Arabs) worshipping (basically seeing Chinese men as the lowest "Untermenschen"), usual refusal to marry Chinese men unless high bride prices were paid (six figures), refusal to give birth or tying birth to bride prices, penchant to marry and then quickly divorce rich men to steal the latter's property, and even believing that women have the right to cheat on their husbands.
However, there must be distinctions between feminism in general (which advocate equal opportunities for female students and workers through merit), and the radical feminists of South Korea and China. The latter are ones causing demographic collapse and moral decline in their respective countries, and thus should be seen as whole-of-society threats.
I would not be against the idea of designating 6B4T or radical Chinese feminists online groups as quasi-terrorist organisations. This is because these groups are literally destroying the foundations of the Korean and Chinese demographics and very societal fabrics. Another option would be for the CPC to ban bride prices and compel divorcees to return previous paid bride prices and other marriage gifts. Meanwhile, the government could also give out work and residential permits to foreign females married to PRC citizens and reside in China. In fact, by "importing" large numbers of young foreign workers (ideally from SE Asia and South Asia), Beijing could hit two birds with one stone: maintain a young workforce for key low-end industrial supply chain and squeeze Chinese radical feminists out of the marriage market. However, such hypothetical programme need to be fully voluntary and free from coercion. Foreign workers should also be banned from the massage industry due to high occurrence of illegal prostitution; thus, could incentivise human trafficking.
Also, the example from the former USSR was a bachelor tax on BOTH single men and women. I have no qualms about CPC taxing the soul out of radical feminists, but the problem with taxing women and not men would be outright gender discrimination and violate the PRC constitution. Gender equality is one of the founding principles of the CPC/PRC. Yet, the Soviet solution of taxing BOTH single men and women would further marginalise Chinese men from the countryside and lower class.
At the same time, distinctions must be made. Feminists who champion for equal opportunities in workplace and schools, and fighting against sexual harassment and domestic violence, must be protected. Chinese are also right to be proud of the fact since the founding of the PRC in 1949, Chinese women have enjoyed far more rights compared to Western women, Arab women, Indian women, etc. It is also based on this fact that the government should have a reason to take action against radical feminists who seek to destroy the fabrics of society.
As a result, maybe the short-term viable solution to China's demographic crisis and gender war would indeed be giving out work and residential permits to foreign women married to PRC citizens. Another one would be to institute a blanket ban against bride prices and dowries , as well as forcing divorcees to return ALL monies and gifts received prior and during marriage to former spouse. Also, the government can impose public child care services like paternity leaves in addition to existing maternity leaves. Fathers need to be able to spend time taking care of their babies, too, and the government should compel companies to give paternity leaves so father could be fathers. Healthcare for children under 18 should completely be free. Finally, the government can give out seasonal grants and periodic basic incomes to single mothers and fathers. Special families like single father/mothers of deceased soldiers/policemen/firemen/national security employees/public healthcare workers/rescuers in line of duty should receive universal basic income.
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If you ask the average Chinese person, he'll say that China still has WAY too many people. Competition for jobs and resources are intense and immense. Both the populace and government do not discourage emigration. Immigration on the other hand is tough except for Thousand Talents level people.
Overseas Chinese is a great pool to draw on. And there are programs even today to attract them.
But to be honest the population and government would be happy for a stabilized population or even one that reduces to say 1 billion in exchange for a more advanced and wealthier nation.
All this Western induced drama about population collapse really doesn't play in China. Chinese people truly believe they need more technological advancement not more people.
Maybe 50 or 100 years in the future when China is fully developed then maybe it'll have a policy like Japan's where people of Japanese descent have an avenue to immigrate. It is nowhere near that point today.
proelite
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Beijing is clearly worried about demographics. Otherwise they wouldn't be promoting marriages and childbearing and giving out a trillion yuan a year in children related subsidies.
In order to stabilize the population around a billion, you act right now. It's probably too late for a billion.
asking for a friend. How would someone get a slice of this welfare without going broke first?
If Beijing is already worried and doing everything (except opening immigration) then we have nothing to worry about.
I really can't see anyone else doing better. The one fear is China ignoring it I guess.
The truth is most of us will never see China's population drop below 1.3B in our lifetime never mind below 1B. You have to project go out to 2060 to see a drop below 1.3B. Any further and it's basically sci-fi. I don't know how the world turns out. Climate change with rising sea levels can make feeding a large population a major liability by 2100. Who knows?
This will be America in 2060:
Only 179M of its 404M projected population will be white (44%). I'm willing to bet 1.2B Han Chinese in 2060 is gonna do better than 179M whites and the 225M minorities that is currently eating up its welfare system. Demographics is going slam every other contender far HARDER than China. The US is lucky if doesn't completely turn into an India -- a democracrazy with horrendous infrastructure, welfare and "castes" based on skin color -- by then.
The non-Hispanic white population in the United States is projected to be around 179 million in 2060, down from 199 million in 2020. This is due to a decline in birth rates and an increase in deaths as the white population ages.
- The U.S. population is projected to grow to 404 million by 2060, which is about a quarter more than today's population.
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