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taxiya

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An opinion piece abt what he claim change jn rhetoric of CN on middle east/ISR issue...

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The tipical twist and manipulation from the west. There is nothing changed. Ever since China established diplomatic relationship with Israel China has stood firm of two state solution in which both countries' sovereignty and security should be respected. That is however vastly different from the Israeli position which does not accept two state solution therefor no sovereignty and security for Palestine.

The west has been consistently taking other's words out of context and cherry-picking for propaganda purpose.

I also suggest you stop using the word "rhetoric" on China's stance. It is a consistent long term principle that has been made known for decades, not a play of words like the US is doing.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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You see effect of Chinese migrant improving economy. Things are less toxic both mentally and biologically than in Toronto. We actually have a reasonable public transportation. You can see development progress every year instead of eternal rot. I say this as someone lived in both place for over 7 years each.
It's the same way of comparing "MARKHAM" that's mostly populated by ethnic Chinese; a city that looks a lot cleaner, organized, and full of delicious Chinese authentic restaurants. Now, compare that city to Brampton and you'll see the difference.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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It's the same way of comparing "MARKHAM" that's mostly populated by ethnic Chinese; a city that looks a lot cleaner, organized, and full of delicious Chinese authentic restaurants. Now, compare that city to Brampton and you'll see the difference.
The funny thing is I now see some post 00s Chinese diaspora move from white worship to now worshipping Indians. Fucking hilarious.
 

Arij Javaid

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An opinion piece abt what he claim change jn rhetoric of CN on middle east/ISR issue...

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He's a pro-china, pro-israeli Jew. So he'll take china not outright bashing Israel as a win. But he'll be shocked to know that china doesn't recognize Hamas or Hezbollah as terrorist organizations. And I bet most Chinese don't have any appetite for Israel either. And Israeli lobby and Israeli supporters bashing china also doesn't help either.
 

nugroho

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So with a new government, Indonesia tariffed Chinese EVs, invited Australia military chips to sail in its waters, now bans Chinese apps. So much for being neutral. Why don't they ban amazon? Most of Amazon's stuff comes from China too.

Is the new president known to be this anti Chinese?
Till today the president is still Mr Jokowi, new president will be augurated 21 october.
 

FriedButter

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For once, the current US would not be amenable to China's investments being used to own a part of their economy, so they wouldn't allow this distributed interest rate to be used to develop their industry/infrastructure.

Even if we handwave that problem, suppose China(or other high productivity nations) are now obliged to invest into less productive countries, there is a reason these countries are less productive to begin with.

You missed a keyword. “Transfer.” This author is not asking you to invest into them. He want China to send the US gov free money as compensation for them buying Chinese products.
 

AssassinsMace

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Rahm Emanuel trying to spin how US allies by themselves have won against China which is a template for anti-China alliance. No, those countries thought they could take on China with the US supporting and pushing them and they had to change course to relieve tensions because it didn't work. If they were strong and didn't need China then they wouldn't be whining to their masters about what China did to them as a result. Remember there was an article where there's a part of the White House called "The Firm" where they solely handle complaints of these very countries that chose to take on China for the US for what China did in response to them. If they were winning then why the need to have a department to handle complaints? They did these for the US and that why it exists because the US promised its backing. It the US that needs little countries to do its dirty work because if the US did it themselves, the US economy wouldn't be able to handle the consequences to the US alone. Of course the US has to spin it worked because how do you encourage other countries to join in when they failed? You're not isolating China when your dependent on doing business with China.

No need to go to bat for Japan just to get China to buy Japan's radioactive fish. How insulting and low for the US that they have to peddle Japan's fish. They had to do it because that's what they promised Japan if it followed the US on China policies. Any break in that promise is failure for the US. That's why the US was relegated to selling Japan's radioactive fish for them. Australia didn't find alternatives to the Chinese market. Remember all that Australian wine they had to dump because China wasn't buying...? China is playing US ally against US ally. Just look at how Australia is looking to take advantage of Canada's loss on canola sales to China. If the US was so strong and doesn't need China, then why doesn't the US and its allies all disengage with China completely? That'll show China. But they can't or else they'll suffer so tremendously that they don't even try. How weak is the US that they need the Chinese market to control the world and to keep its allies happy. Their market can't do it alone?

This US mentality is incapable of deeper foresight. That's how the wonderful amazing Obama made the mistake of taunting that because of US fracking and how it was energy independent, the US didn't need the Middle East and their politics. And what happened afterwards was Saudi Arabia increased oil production lowering the price per barrel making fracking too expensive and thus bankrupting most of the new fracking companies that sprung up because of it. Then the US forgot that disengagement meant no influence in the international oil trade. The US forgot how oil is a strategic resource that the world needed. The US didn't need the Middle East anymore so who are they going to sell their oil to? China. The influence the US used being the number one consumer of other countries oil was now shifting to China. You don't think that's why the petrodollar is in its most fragile state that it's ever been? How about Saudi Arabia moving towards BRICS? How about the world in all things general? That's a result the US and West's arrogance and lack of foresight.

They need China to not do business with countries they don't like hence why they Jews are complaining about China doing business with Iran. Want a clear indication how Israeli defense didn't work against Iran's latest attack...? They're trying to get everyone to go after China for buying Iranian oil because then Iran has no money to develop and make more missiles that defeated Israel's defenses. Iran is getting closer and closer on making those missiles more accurate. I don't say that China's successes are about genetics like the West does about themselves over all. I say that all it takes is money. If you have enough money, you can accomplish anything the West can do. White people hate it when I say that because they want to make everyone believe it's about genetics so that everyone else doesn't try and become a threat to them. That's why the West wants the world to be poor. It's intentional what they're doing to make sure no one becomes a threat to their supremacy. When I put that in a comment, everyone else loves it. The West hates it exposing how openly they gladly admit their racism in arguing against it.
 
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