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[Sardaukar20]

That could be it, but I'm failing to see the significance of that as the US already has a defense treaty with the rest of AUKUS, Japan, the Philippines, South Korea, etc.

Forming that into a single organization now could be nothing more than theatrics and would be seen very negatively and warily in the region.

Not to mention bringing the European NATO in, who could not help much tangibly/militarily the US, but would decimate their image and perception in the region to the lowest possible level. If you follow the ASEAN, they are against forming regional blocks as much as possible.

Also, China is ASEAN's biggest trade partner, investor, infrastructure provider, and technology transfer source - with some exceptions like the Philippines who choose to confront China.

At this point, it is not a question of whether the ASEAN will join the US against China, but whether ASEAN will allow the US to attack China and further escalate the situation in the region without a response from them.

They are also certain to officially deny and close their air spaces and territorial waters to the US Navy in the case that the US goes to invade China or tries to disrupt regional shipping, might even employ asymmetrical warfare against them just like Houthis, but much more effective.

It is just that in this case it will be probably China who is going to direct this with intel and missiles/drones, instead of Iran in the case of Houthis.


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With regards to closing of the Straits of Malacca by QUAD, AUKUS or any funny acronym alliances in times of conflict with China – ASEAN will not allow it as the Straits of Malacca is a major artery of world trade as 40% of world trade passes though it, and closing it will have severe impact on world economy and on ASEAN itself. If any acronym alliances were to use military force to close the Straits of Malacca, then it will become an enemy of ASEAN – ASEAN will then partner with China by opening its naval ports and airports to Chinese destroyers, drones and jet fighters to ensure Freedom of Navigation in the Straits of Malacca via joint patrol.

That's a very optimistic scenario. But I'm not that optimistic for ASEAN. After years of observing what communities of nations did during Covid, the Ukraine War, and the Israel-Gaza War. As an inhabitant of SEA myself, my gut feeling is that if and when the Straits of Malacca is blockaded, ASEAN will be very divided about what to do. Singapore, I suspect will be paralyzed by indecisiveness and confusion as it'll be split between the US and China. It'll be doing alot of diplomatic work and posturing, but it won't do anything too serious to anger either side. Malaysia and Brunei are just hopeless cowards. They will hide away from any fight. Myanmar will be too busy in its civil war and will stay out. The Philippines is the US's pet in SEA, so it'll support the US. So maybe, just maybe, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, and the various Indo-China nations might actually have the guts to do something and join forces with China to re-open the SOM. Because these nations are the current growth engines for ASEAN, and have a future to fight for.

 

[AndrewS]

That's a very optimistic scenario. But I'm not that optimistic for ASEAN. After years of observing what communities of nations did during Covid, the Ukraine War, and the Israel-Gaza War. As an inhabitant of SEA myself, my gut feeling is that if and when the Straits of Malacca is blockaded, ASEAN will be very divided about what to do. Singapore, I suspect will be paralyzed by indecisiveness and confusion as it'll be split between the US and China. It'll be doing alot of diplomatic work and posturing, but it won't do anything too serious to anger either side. Malaysia and Brunei are just hopeless cowards. They will hide away from any fight. Myanmar will be too busy in its civil war and will stay out. The Philippines is the US's pet in SEA, so it'll support the US. So maybe, just maybe, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, and the various Indo-China nations might actually have the guts to do something and join forces with China to re-open the SOM. Because these nations are the current growth engines for ASEAN, and have a future to fight for.

If the Straits of Malacca (and presumably the other straits in Indonesia) are completely blockaded, it would cause a severe economic crisis in most ASEAN states. This is far more serious than your examples of "Covid, the Ukraine War, and the Israel-Gaza War"

So what happens to all the neutral shipping from the Middle Eastern to ASEAN? Or the traffic from Africa and India to ASEAN?

 

[Atomicfrog]

Good news for Georgia, foreign agent bill passed ! Whatever the tantrum of the EU or the US.

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[AssassinsMace]

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What an idiot! Please do and bankrupt the US. It doesn’t matter how anyone explains that Iron Dome is a completely different system useless from the threats of Canada and Mexico. Even if they have to correct it to say Trump meant a continental system, which you know he didn’t, the costs would be fantastic.



What happened to all that talk of SM missiles defending against China’s hypersonic glide vehicle? Since it would be able to come at the US from any direction exploiting holes where there would be no SM missiles… Good luck with that. The US whether it was Iron Dome or SM missiles, it would cost the US into bankruptcy. So please waste your time.

Look at how the news media entertains the ramblings of a fool and not just say what he wants is unrealistic to his face.

 

[Atomicfrog]

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What an idiot! Please do and bankrupt the US. It doesn’t matter how anyone explains that Iron Dome is a completely different system useless from the threats of Canada and Mexico. Even if they have to correct it to say Trump meant a continental system, which you know he didn’t, the costs would be fantastic.



What happened to all that talk of SM missiles defending against China’s hypersonic glide vehicle? Since it would be able to come at the US from any direction exploiting holes where there would be no SM missiles… Good luck with that. The US whether it was Iron Dome or SM missiles, it would cost the US into bankruptcy. So please waste your time.

Look at how the news media entertains the ramblings of a fool and not just say what he wants is unrealistic to his face.

Threats of Canada ? Are you talking about rabies infected beavers or something ??? Our government is no better than a confuse golden retriver stuffed with a rainbow flag.

 

[Overbom]

Yellen is smoking some good stuff

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Yellen Hopes China Doesn’t Mount ‘Significant’ Trade Retaliation​

• Treasury secretary says any US steps won’t be broad-based

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said she hopes China won’t mount major retaliation against any steps Washington takes to safeguard investments in critical new industries, while emphasizing the US cannot allow these emerging sectors to be “wiped out” by Chinese competition.

 

[Temstar]

What do you all make of this?

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1790324144480936156

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

Threats of Canada ? Are you talking about rabies infected beavers or something ??? Our government is no better than a confuse golden retriver stuffed with a rainbow flag.

Nah, Comrade Trump is preparing to defend the southern borders. Remember all those talks by Republicans about militarily invading Mexico to fight the cartels?

Who knows if one day, some Mexican cartels just happen to stumble upon some TL-17s and Fire Dragon 480s of unknown origin hidden in the bushes or warehouses in Mexico?

 

[didklmyself]

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1790324144480936156

Make of what? The possible sanctions or the deal's implication on security environment in the Indian Ocean? If it the latter, it doesn't matter much - Iran cares much more about its relationship with China than India. It doesn't mean anything more than that Iran wants and has all rights to have a good relationship with India.
As for the former, US sanctioning India would be too much. Their entire Asian strategy relies on India being in their camp, destroying a settles deal would be disastrous for the relationship. India knows that the US influence is waning, they can take such steps. Idk what would happen during Trump admin but rn they are good.

 

[Chevalier]

Yellen is smoking some good stuff

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This is the infamous jewish chutzpah that we have observed in the american ruling class now that they have been completely and utterly infiltrated by zionist jews. We also saw this during Trump era when he told China not to do tariffs in response to his own tariffs against China.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1790324144480936156

Things cant have been going well between the indian and the anglo zionist when india's foreign minister just said that the US hegemony was over.

Maybe the indians failed to do the needful and know their place in an anglo zionist 'rules based world order'.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1790326067137265876

Anything that upsets the Anglo zionist 'rules based order' should be welcomed.