Funny article thread

[tygyg1111]

Some members are fueled by ideology and only apply a thin veneer of fake analysis to cover up their sock puppet nature. The Twitter "sources" they reposted here by the truckload: Ukraine and Western propaganda channels/bots.

I would be keen to hear their viewpoints on this matter.

In fact I know one of these users is online, because they replied to the Japan thread

 

[CMP]

I would be keen to hear their viewpoints on this matter.

In fact I know one of these users is online, because they replied to the Japan thread

I don't expect many of them to respond. They have a tendency to turn pretty silent when things aren't going their way.

 

[Deleted member 24525]

I believe many thread members predicted this outcome 2 years ago, while certain other members derided them

I believe many thread members predicted this outcome with the corollary that Russia's industrial advantage would carry them to conquer all of Ukraine, not 18% of it.

 

[CMP]

I believe many thread members predicted this outcome with the corollary that Russia's industrial advantage would carry them to conquer all of Ukraine, not 18% of it.

No peace has been negotiated yet. It is hard to say what Russia will hold out for before agreeing, but I imagine the repatriation of their frozen assets will be just one small item on a very long list.

 

[Deleted member 24525]

No peace has been negotiated yet. It is hard to say what Russia will hold out for before agreeing, but I imagine the repatriation of their foreign exchange reserves will be just one small item on a very long list.

Their forex reserves are held in DC and Frankfurt not in Avdiivka.

 

[CMP]

Their forex reserves are held in DC and Frankfurt not in Avdiivka.

Doesn't mean they're off the table as a small piece of a negotiated settlement. Russia would certainly want to have them transferred out. And as is said even in mainstream Western media, top US officials believe Russia intends to hold out instead of agreeing to a peace.

 

[Deleted member 24525]

Doesn't mean they're off the table as a small piece of a negotiated settlement. Russia would certainly want to have them transferred out. And as is said even in mainstream Western media, top US officials believe Russia intends to hold out instead of agreeing to a peace.

I am asking you what leverage you think they have over the US specifically to extract such a massive and politically charged concession.

 

[Temstar]

I get that this is basically kriegspiel and that was a seriously thing but still, somehow this just gives off the feel of a big D&D game.

 

[tygyg1111]

I get that this is basically kriegspiel and that was a seriously thing but still, somehow this just gives off the feel of a big D&D game.

"As the defenders in this high IQ tabletop simulation, we've beaten you guys six times in a row now. I reckon your strategy is f*cked."

"Well, as long as there is a possibility that you roll 1 six times consecutively, I think we've got a chance..."

"..."

 

[CMP]

I am asking you what leverage you think they have over the US specifically to extract such a massive and politically charged concession.

The financial and military resources intended to keep Ukraine viable are drawn down to about 1/9th of what was allocated in total. There's no way to keep funding the fighting without depleting equipment intended for other priorities (Israel, Taiwan, etc.).

The very current news of the US telling Ukraine to figure out a peace concession that would gain Russian agreement certainly sounds like this shindig is up. So rather than saying this is about Russian leverage over the US, mainstream Western media is even signalling very clearly that US leadership wants this to end.

In that sense, you could say Russia's greatest leverage is simply to keep this war alive and perhaps even signal at ramping up.