Probably better to let the UK do it on their own like they did with Brexit. The way the hurt will be just as bad as Brexit, they will have no one to blame but themselves afterwards. Plus the uk is an expert at self owning themselves that China doesn’t really need to do much. Plus I am kinda enjoying the fact that many HK rioters are now breaking down from their utopia literally collapsing down on their sorry heads. Why ruin it so soon, plus the real power is the USA still, and sooner later like what happened to birmingham, the UK will go bankrupt and then they will start begging for help with no one but themselves to blame. Sure they will try to blame China but then again, the more they whine, they less likely for China to consider helping the UK. Like a long term revenge for what the UK did to China, all of it done via self owning because the UK has lost pretty much anyone with a brain to lead the nation. The UK is finished
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No, we need to encourage more of those 润人 to go to the West. Their intelligence are dragging down China’s overall IQ
Young people leaving Taiwan should be encouraged. They mostly dislike China, vote for pro independence parties and are in the right age group to fight against the PLA.
What...? I was explaining the wage situation in the US for reference. If you wanted to directly link the two, depending on the location and profession, illegal immigrants aren't barred from legally being employed.
Hourly wages are not linked to hours worked. A person could work somewhere within 1-80 hours a week. The variability in hours is especially present in labor. Yearly or monthly compensation takes that into account, which is why I tried to mention it in other places. This is like basic knowledge?
You are setting up some strange arguments and assumptions and then projecting them onto me. I really don't know why people are over reacting to the wage ranges. The adjusted median salary in the US is $74,580. Wages are going to be higher on average than most other countries.
Someone got real mad after Victor Gao gave the UK a massive tongue lash...
I think you need to improve your sensitivity to numbers.
The following statistics are from China's official population figures: at the end of 2022, the population aged 0-15 was 256.15 million, or 18.1 per cent of the country's population; the working-age population aged 16-59 was 875.56 million, or 62.0 per cent; and the population aged 60 years and over was 280.04 million, or 19.8 per cent. Of these, 209.78 million, or 14.9 per cent, were aged 65 and over. .
Calculations show that there are about 875.5 million people in the labour force, then 536.2 million in the non-labour force. So 600 million people making less than $150 a month is basically reasonable, unless you support child labour or are willing to have to continue working after retirement.
I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that in the official statistics 16-18 year olds are included in the labour force, but in China this means that they have not graduated from university. If they are still at university their income will be basically 0. If they are already working then they are unlikely to get good jobs due to their qualifications.
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Not paid $15 anywhere? What absolute nonsense. You irrationally freaking out over my earlier post makes so much more sense now.
I was literally paying my crew of illegals $20 an hour each for the last few months. I did the same thing the year prior as well. And that was lower than the general rate people are charged because I was guaranteeing them 48 hours of work a week for the duration of the job. Me and my competitors, and sometimes partners, talk often. That rate is fairly average right now, it was higher the last few years.
Do you know what the going discounted rate for illegals is if they are hired by fellow illegals? $15 per hour by their boss. I end up paying the boss over that but I'm not going to expose myself to asbestos dust...so I willingly gave that premium to hire a manager and let him pocket both the difference and the lung cancer. Before anyone complains, I warned him about the asbestos and told him his pay included the cost for protective equipment. He didn't care at all. This is only the most recent time, I've had to hire out a manager a few times over the last few years and $15 per hour is what they pay.
Hey do you want a more concrete source?
I don't know where you are getting your information about America, but you need to find actual legitimate sources.
Understand, because I didn't make myself clear earlier. I only care about making money. I don't care at all where my building materials, workers, customers, or partners come from. So keep me out of this great illegal Chinese conspiracy nonsense.
In one direction, scientists and engineers going from US to China.
In the opposite direction, criminals and brainwashed going from China to US.
US is welcome to keep its position as most favoured nation for illegal immigrants
According to BLS's July 18 2023 release, median weekly earnings for full-time workers is $1,100. after seasonal adjustments, it is $1,107. For Hispanics, it is $893. By industry, it is $707 for service occupations.
That means a median earning of
$57,200, $46,436, and $36,764 respectively.
For part-time workers, the median weekly earnings is
$358 total, and $351 for Hispanics. That is $18,616/$18,252 if they were able to get that for the whole year.
The Federal Reserve estimated the informal sector is about 3% of US GDP and employs 5% of the workforce. Due to lack of money, that number may have risen, but these are described as necessary supplemental income and not more than their formal income. From BLS, service occupations are 9% of the workforce. Those numbers don't square with illegal workers having, in general, high pay. Sure there might be a few, but those are exceptions and not the general trend. Not something a prospective Chinese illegal can count on at all.
According to the World Bank, China's PPP conversion factor is 3.99 for 2022.
That means those same US annual wages would be the rough equivalent of:
104.5k, 84.8k, 67k RMB for full-time workers
34k, 33.3k RMB for part-time workers
Just for 104.5k RMB, that is 87.9k RMB and 72.1k RMB post-taxes for Residents and non-Residents of Shenzhen respectively (per tax calculators).
Yea people are really going from China to the USA as illegals and then becoming fabulously wealthy.