I highly doubt your experience is applicable to new illegal immigrants, but yes 50 dollar an hour waitress job is possible if you live in rich areas. I have seen places like that in Canada where people earn 50-60 Canadians. The people there are mainly old family business and entirely white. They do not go study in college and stay there in family business. It is also a ski resort though.
Depends on which one of the experiences we are talking about, and what I said which is certainly not that high end wages were automatically applicable to new illegal immigrants. The average wages listed is a combination of personal knowledge of wage ranges quickly checked with national averages. Also ~83% of Americans live in urban areas which is the trend of developed countries and where most wealth is concentrated.
Ski resorts are a interesting discussion in themselves because there are a lot of variables in play. Its a bit more complex than the scope of this reply. We can certainly talk about it if you want though.
to make 100k at a restaurant you have to be attractive, dress provocatively, work in the wealthiest manhattan districts and serve a lot of drinks
this is literally the top 1% of restaurant workers and by no means a reflection of the average service industry experience in america, much less illegals that barely speak english and have no connections
stop this charade.
That isn't the only wealthy area in America by far, and I never claimed it was a normal wage. Also I never said they were making $100k for that matter either, I mentioned hourly in the first post. And I literally said it was the higher end of the spectrum..I don't know how to make you read my posts correctly.
Here is the post again:
Keep in mind, these are typical ranges:
$11-25 per hour for restaurant jobs. Depends on geographic location and the specific job.
Unlicensed construction or gardening labor is $11-35 an hour. Really depends on how one calculates earnings. Licensed construction (including plumbing, electrical, roofing, etc) work is about $20-$60 an hour.
Fundamental aspect of economics is that specialization increases earning potential. It's not unheard of to make $80-300 an hour doing high earning restaurant work in an urban area. Similarly it's possible to make ~$70-90,000 a year doing unlicensed construction if the worker knows how to maximize their earning potential.
I even bolded the average wage part for you. Han1289, please let me know where I said the typical wage was higher than that.
stop this charade.
I'm confused. Are you talking about typical jobs and incomes for illegal immigrants who don't speak any English?
I'm also confused as to what you are asking, maybe this will clarify the issue. The post you replied to was a clarification as the other poster misinterpreted my initial post. This second post you are quoting is also discussing the higher wage earning examples, its not really about typical wage spectrums for Americans, legal immigrants, or illegal immigrants.
If you are talking about the first post about average wages, its possible. I can go into examples, historic or recent ones. But if you want to discuss illegal immigrant wage earnings, its going to be anecdotal by definition. The majority of workers, especially labor, for obvious reasons don't have a lot of incentive to report earnings to the government.
