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Bellum_Romanum

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yikes, surprised no one is talking about this news. This could be big implications for Paris.
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Please next time, try not to be persuaded so rather quickly from any and all of these usual western led misinformation/disinformation/propaganda outlets without verifying first with Chinese news sources, or verify the veracity of the claims and accusations leveled against a Chinese person, Chinese company, Chinese people, country etc....
 

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US athletes are the biggest users of doping. But good luck seeing them get penalized for it.
The MLB has suffered irreparable damage to steroid scandals. Their Hall of Fame won't even vote in the home run record holder. It would be potentially devastating to the NBA as well if it were proven that LeBron James was really juicing. There was also a survey some years back which claimed 1 out of 10 ex-NFL players "admitted" to steroid use. Steroids are only one of many PEDs on the market.
 

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The MLB has suffered irreparable damage to steroid scandals. Their Hall of Fame won't even vote in the home run record holder. It would be potentially devastating to the NBA as well if it were proven that LeBron James was really juicing. There was also a survey some years back which claimed 1 out of 10 ex-NFL players "admitted" to steroid use. Steroids are only one of many PEDs on the market.
LeBron James was really juicing
Wow!! Has there been any rumour that suggests LBJ is taking roids? I never heard of that one before. Interesting.
 

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US athletes are the biggest users of doping. But good luck seeing them get penalized for it.
The all time worst was the 1989 Seoul Olympics 100m
Canada hung Ben Johnson out to dry, did a Parliamentary inquiry and destroyed his reputation. Meanwhile Carl Lewis was fully protected by the US.
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Maybe we have the benefit of hindsight in this case, but it took 20+ years for the country to realize that the man was not some evil cheater (at least in the sense that "if everyone is cheating, is it still cheating?")

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Even wilder is the potential that Carl Lewis' friend sabotaged the sample.

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Lebron has been in the league long enough that he would have been caught at some point if he was up to something. Look at all of those guys who denied doping, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, all those 1989 Seoul runners in addition to Johnson (Linford Christie, Lewis, etc.). It will catch up to you.

Furthermore, the BBWA (Baseball Writers of America) is full of old conservative white guys. The MLB MVP award was named after an avowed racist up until 2020. Roberto Clemente was voted into the Hall of Fame by a special vote to waive the usual waiting period because he died in a plane crash delivering humanitarian aid, but the vote was not unanimous. There was still like 50 guys who thought "tradition" was more important than honoring such a man.
 

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The all time worst was the 1989 Seoul Olympics 100m
Canada hung Ben Johnson out to dry, did a Parliamentary inquiry and destroyed his reputation. Meanwhile Carl Lewis was fully protected by the US.
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Maybe we have the benefit of hindsight in this case, but it took 20+ years for the country to realize that the man was not some evil cheater (at least in the sense that "if everyone is cheating, is it still cheating?")

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Even wilder is the potential that Carl Lewis' friend sabotaged the sample.



Lebron has been in the league long enough that he would have been caught at some point if he was up to something. Look at all of those guys who denied doping, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, all those 1989 Seoul runners in addition to Johnson (Linford Christie, Lewis, etc.). It will catch up to you.

Furthermore, the BBWA (Baseball Writers of America) is full of old conservative white guys. The MLB MVP award was named after an avowed racist up until 2020. Roberto Clemente was voted into the Hall of Fame by a special vote to waive the usual waiting period because he died in a plane crash delivering humanitarian aid, but the vote was not unanimous. There was still like 50 guys who thought "tradition" was more important than honoring such a man.
I am no expert in PEDs/testing and neither am I saying that LeBron's juicing claims are true but I know that experts in the field have said the tests aren't expansive enough and full of loopholes.

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The NBA may not be as intense with drug testing since they aren't as associated with doping as per say track and field and MLB. Even MMA/UFC is beginning to gain a reputation for juicers.
 

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WADA founder Pound says 'disgusted' by USADA 'lies' over China cases​

Simon Evans
Sat, May 18, 2024, 1:22 AM GMT+8·4 min read

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Former President of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), Dick Pound hit out at the US Anti Doping Agency in a meeting on Friday. (JUSTIN TALLIS)

Former President of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), Dick Pound hit out at the US Anti Doping Agency in a meeting on Friday. (JUSTIN TALLIS)
The former president of the World Anti Doping Agency (WADA), Canadian Dick Pound, launched a fierce attack on the United States anti-doping body USADA on Friday, accusing them of "lies and distortions" and seeking to undermine WADA.
Pound's comments came during an extraordinary meeting of the WADA Foundation Board, held online, to discuss the fall-out from the case of 23 Chinese swimmers who tested positive for a prescription heart drug.
WADA came under fire in April after it was revealed that the Chinese swimmers tested positive for trimetazidine -- which can enhance performance -- ahead of the Tokyo Olympics in 2021.
The swimmers were not suspended or sanctioned after WADA accepted the explanation of Chinese authorities that the results were caused by food contamination at a hotel where they had stayed.
The head of USADA, Travis Tygart, has called the situation a "potential cover-up" with the positive tests never made public at the time.
"On behalf of WADA, I am deeply disappointed and disgusted by the deliberate lies and distortions coming from USADA, including that WADA has swept doping cases in China under the rug," said Pound, a lawyer who was the first president of WADA but retired at the end of 2020.
"That accusation, bereft of any truth, has but a single purpose, to deliberately damage the reputation of WADA and to lessen the worldwide trust that has been built up since WADA was created a quarter of a century ago to head up the international fight against doping in sport.
"The claim that WADA has in some way inappropriately favored China is completely false. WADA applies the World Anti-Doping Code and the related standards in an even-handed way," he said.
Pound said that WADA's past actions against doping cases in Russia proved that "superpowers are treated the same way" as other nations.
The former swimmer, who remains an honorary member of the International Olympic Committee, suggested that USADA's actions may have a political dimension.
"USADA is financed by the United States government. That government is currently in a chilly relationship with China's government. Could there be a connection?" he asked.
WADA has asked an independent prosecutor to examine the case and publish a report but Pound urged them to go further.
"My suggestion is twofold," he said, directly addressing WADA president Witold Banka.
"First, to wait for the report of the independent investigator and then to institute legal proceedings claiming significant damages against USADA since there must be serious consequences arising from its outrageous conduct," he said.
- 'Nothing was hidden' -
Tygart responded to Pound's comments in an email to AFP.
"While the founding president of WADA did great work in setting up WADA in the early days of the agency, WADA changed dramatically in the years after he left.
"He has not been WADA President for years now, and for the current leadership to use him in this way shows you that they will pull out all the stops to try to divert from the truth, defaulting to smoke and mirrors instead of transparency," he said.
Pound noted that China had brought the cases to WADA, saying they had not benefited in any way from the situation and said "nothing was hidden".
"The Chinese investigation led to a conclusion of contamination, not doping. The evidence pointed firmly in that direction. None pointed to doping," he said.
Banka, who noted he had previously been attacked by Russian officials, also took aim at USADA.
"There are gaps in harmonising anti-doping policy globally...including in the United States where the great majority of these unsubstantiated and defamatory attacks have been coming from," said Banka.
"In the U.S, 90 per cent of American athletes, those in the professional leagues and college sport, do not compete under the World Anti-Doping Code.
"31 per cent of American athletes under the code were not sufficiently tested in the 12-month period prior to the Tokyo Games, according to the data which is available to us," he added.
Tygart issued a statement in response to the meeting, which had included numerous statements of support for WADA.
"As predicted, WADA is much better at circling the wagons than they are at actually being transparent. The fact is that WADA leaders violated their own rules by, at a minimum, not finding any violations or publicizing the cases.
"Today’s meeting further demonstrated that the global anti-doping system is as broken as ever and needs immediate reform. Instead of threats and attacks, we call on WADA to actually lead by taking action and to provide real answers by producing the full China file for the world to evaluate," he added.
 
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