New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

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quim said:
BYD Seal, Tang and Han really need upgrades for the export market.

Its specs are too outdated for its target prices. Top speed below 180km/h, slower charging speed than competitors.

But it seems that BYD is still more interested in the Chinese mass market and is not focusing on improving the performance of its flagship models.

Even the new Sea Lion 07 looks like it will only reach 225 km/h in its most expensive version, far behind Xiaomi SU7 and Teslas that go above 265 km/h. Need to see the fast charging speed too. These specifications matter to a good part of the public when comparing cars to buy.
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I have been posting a lot on sea lion 07. I would suggest you read that first

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据《财经》报道，丰田在华合资公司未来两到三年有导入插电式混动的计划，并且技术路线大概率不再延用丰田原有的 Hybrid 模式（油电混合动力系统），而是有可能采用 DMI 技术（超级混动技术）。
报道称，从未来产品规划来看，涉及车型大约有两三款。不过，这些产品是否都能如约落地，目前，还没有更进一步的消息。企业相关人士表示：“但可以肯定的是，即便采用比亚迪 DMI 技术，丰田也一定会进行新的打磨和调教，最终车型的驾乘体验还是会有所不同”。

According to Caijing, Toyota's joint venture in China has plans to introduce plug-in hybrid vehicles in the next two to three years, and the technical route is not likely to use Toyota's original hybrid mode (gas-electric hybrid power system), but is likely to use DMI technology (super hybrid technology). According to the report, there are about two or three foreign products involved. However, whether these products are landed as scheduled, at present, there is no further news. Enterprise officials said: "But certainly can, even the use of BYD DMI technology, Toyota will also carry out new modification and adjustment, the final new car driving experience will be different."

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That's because Toyota's technology is way behind.
Look at how many PHEV's they have, not even a fraction of BYD's
The regular Toyota hybrid architecture is centred around ICE engine as the heart. Batteries are small, electric motors are not particularly powerful.
 
vincent

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quim said:
BYD Seal, Tang and Han really need upgrades for the export market.

Its specs are too outdated for its target prices. Top speed below 180km/h, slower charging speed than competitors.

But it seems that BYD is still more interested in the Chinese mass market and is not focusing on improving the performance of its flagship models.

Even the new Sea Lion 07 looks like it will only reach 225 km/h in its most expensive version, far behind Xiaomi SU7 and Teslas that go above 265 km/h. Need to see the fast charging speed too. These specifications matter to a good part of the public when comparing cars to buy.
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Are there any places that have speed limit over 120km (other than some sections of autobahn)?
 
vincent

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Personally I have never ever driven above 150km/h. Legal or not, I don't think it is safe to drive above that speed. Maximum speed above 180km/h is a very niche and unsafe requirement, not to mention illegal which I'm sure vast majority of drivers don't care about.
 
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