Turkey Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Guidance of AAM confirmed by Aselsan through the use of Karat IRST:
Interesting Kizilelma model in the TAF headquarters:
Nozzle with the serrated edges and a special paintjob.
Once the twin engine variant is ready I think the full potential will be unlocked. Not only more thrust for kinematics but also ample power generated for radar/avionics and onboard EW.
Two Istif-class frigates will be built for Qatar:
They’ve also procured the 'entire' “Steel Dome,” so a light-frigate node of it would make sense. But why is this class sold in two units each time?
They’ve also procured the 'entire' “Steel Dome,” so a light-frigate node of it would make sense. But why is this class sold in two units each time?
Strangely, I don't see any of the RAM like on the PT-5. Perhaps it's still in testing?
Not just testing but I assume that Turkiye has well developed surrogate/machine learning based models for joint aerodynamic, structural and electrodynamics optimization. Far field measurements from a flying aircraft will help validate such models and more data will help increase optimization options. Relating near field imaging studies with far field willl also require preferablly NO RAM as types of RAM can be changed but rest of aircraft not that easily.
RAM will unnecessary complicate such analysis. Also Turkiye would need not just single radar but at least bi-static scattered fields (emitting radar not the same as recipient radar location). Here RAM as well as NO RAM might tell how good bistatic shapping has been achieved based on idealized radars locations and other characteristics ( really hard though).
Also now a days, space based radars pose greater threat. So test measurement data with external RAM will turn a straightforward problems into mathematically what is known as ill defined one.
I am not saying Turkiye would further tweak the design as it may already satisfy Turkish needs, but They would still want to have clean data that relates shape parameters/derivatives etc among others with actual radar/sensor data. internally scattered field is another issue that RAM would create problems for.
Not to mention, how identifiable the aircraft is based on observed kinematics, time varying scattered field even due to say deformation (e.g. wing deflection etc.) unique to aircraft. This uniqueness data can be used to engineer a cheaper sacrificial drone or payload even so that enemy radars with stored "target data" will go after false target at least with high probability.
this is crucial since you want to send in cheap imitator that enemy shoots while keeping the real one safe. One can design a sacrificial payload that can take the hit when needed. Though I don't think Turkiye will reveal it as such since it should be highly classfied.
Plus to this day, no nation has been able to find RAM or even epoxy that actually don't degrade during flight. Even composite embedded absorbers degrade. SO its unless there is war, I assume many nations fly even low observable plans without RAM or degraded ram. Why waste money or effort.
The point is keep flying without RAM or low RAM actually can keep on giving useful data that can be used to improve current or future designs.
Turkiye has come a long way. Shows what a determine nation can achieve once it sets its minds into it. Just admiring certain aspects of aerspace related complexity Turkiye managed to deal with when writing above. RAM talk was just an excuse.
CEO of TAI gave an interview:
- First flight of Kaan P1 delayed to May, not later than June.
- We plan to bring the second prototype to the testing phase by the end of this year, and the third prototype either by the end of this year or at the beginning of next year. The prototypes have an approximate 2-3 month on-site testing process.
- The delivery target for Kaan was set for the end of 2028, but due to the delays experienced, it is now anticipated that entry into the inventory will begin in early 2029.
- The official order for the first 20 Kaan is expected to be placed soon.
- In Blocks 10/20, 20–40 aircraft will be produced with the F110. Once the domestic engine is ready, it will be integrated into the platform. 3–5 month delays are normal in projects of this scale; the main plan has not changed.
- Work for the 6th generation has already begun.
- Towards the end of Kaan Block 20, together with the indigenous engine, we can speak of a 5.5 generation level.
- With the indigenous engine coming online, all infrastructure and concepts for the 6th generation will be ready within a few years.
- Approximately 400 sorties have been completed with 2 prototypes of HÜRJET, and the testing process is successfully ongoing.
- Additionally, 4 new HÜRJET are being produced. These aircraft will be the precursors to the Turkish Air Force's first order of 12 aircraft and will be used in training and light attack missions.
- Anka-3 Critical Design Review finished 2 months ago and two prototypes to be built. Mass production studies have started based on this (new) design.
- Lots of foreign interest in Anka-3, wanting to co-produce it.
- 50 Anka-3 expected to be ordered this year by TurAF
- More than 100 Ataks have been built so far and both Philippines and Nigeria want more Ataks
- Plan to deliver 10-12 Gokbey this year. Gokbey with TS1400 to be delivered from 2028.
- FF of T925 is planned for this year with first deliveries in 2028 to the forestry service. Can carry 4 tons of water for firefighting purposes.
- First flight of Kaan P1 delayed to May, not later than June.
- We plan to bring the second prototype to the testing phase by the end of this year, and the third prototype either by the end of this year or at the beginning of next year. The prototypes have an approximate 2-3 month on-site testing process.
- The delivery target for Kaan was set for the end of 2028, but due to the delays experienced, it is now anticipated that entry into the inventory will begin in early 2029.
- The official order for the first 20 Kaan is expected to be placed soon.
- In Blocks 10/20, 20–40 aircraft will be produced with the F110. Once the domestic engine is ready, it will be integrated into the platform. 3–5 month delays are normal in projects of this scale; the main plan has not changed.
- Work for the 6th generation has already begun.
- Towards the end of Kaan Block 20, together with the indigenous engine, we can speak of a 5.5 generation level.
- With the indigenous engine coming online, all infrastructure and concepts for the 6th generation will be ready within a few years.
- Approximately 400 sorties have been completed with 2 prototypes of HÜRJET, and the testing process is successfully ongoing.
- Additionally, 4 new HÜRJET are being produced. These aircraft will be the precursors to the Turkish Air Force's first order of 12 aircraft and will be used in training and light attack missions.
- Anka-3 Critical Design Review finished 2 months ago and two prototypes to be built. Mass production studies have started based on this (new) design.
- Lots of foreign interest in Anka-3, wanting to co-produce it.
- 50 Anka-3 expected to be ordered this year by TurAF
- More than 100 Ataks have been built so far and both Philippines and Nigeria want more Ataks
- Plan to deliver 10-12 Gokbey this year. Gokbey with TS1400 to be delivered from 2028.
- FF of T925 is planned for this year with first deliveries in 2028 to the forestry service. Can carry 4 tons of water for firefighting purposes.
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According to Navalnews, I-class F-516 and F-518 will be exported to Indonesia:
"The two frigates originally planned for delivery to the Turkish Navy as future TCG İzmir and TCG İçel will therefore be transferred to the export program. TAIS will build two additional I-class frigates for the Turkish Navy, which will become the 13th and 14th ships of the MILGEM program. Currently, 7 frigates are under construction simultaneously at the shipyards affiliated with TAIS."
"The two frigates originally planned for delivery to the Turkish Navy as future TCG İzmir and TCG İçel will therefore be transferred to the export program. TAIS will build two additional I-class frigates for the Turkish Navy, which will become the 13th and 14th ships of the MILGEM program. Currently, 7 frigates are under construction simultaneously at the shipyards affiliated with TAIS."