The War in the Ukraine

Santamaria

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LOL. Where did you get the number? From grifters at Guanxi?

Poland's Office of National Security (BBN - Biuro Bezpieczeństwa Narodowego) commissioned a number of studies into the Russo-Ukrainian war and one of the more interesting findings were the statistics on equipment losses and their causes.

That's all. You people can learn from it, nor not. I don't care. I have more important stuff to do. Have good week.
Thanks for the explanation, but I think I would rather learn from experts of a country with a better military history record than Poland

When you have both Russia and Israel, two countries with a solid MIC and currently involved in a war creating anti FVP defences for their tanks does not ring a bell on you and your armchair office?
 
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Santamaria

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They replaced a civil engineer with a mathematician/economist as defense minister. We will see what happens.
At this point both are managers. I don’t think neither Shoigu neither the new guy ever worked as engineer or mathematician.

For me what is more interesting is that Shoigu will take the place of Patrushev as secretary of Security Council.

Patrushev has intelligence background and he has always been very anti west, a real hawk, a hardliner against any trust in the West.
In theory he will get a new Position and that’s why Shoigu got his place but this could be an excuse.

I wonder what this means
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gelgoog

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Still not the craziest thing I saw in comparison to Rogozin being the head chief of Roscosmos before.
Yeah. Putting a journalist by training as head of the space agency. He is supposed to have undergone training to do his job. Still...
I can't speak too poorly about him because since he went there at least they built Vostochny and the rockets don't seem to be failing as much anymore. But the satellite program is a disaster.

At this point both are managers. I don’t think neither Shoigu neither the new guy ever worked as engineer or mathematician.
You would be wrong. According to Wikipedia:

"Shoigu worked in construction projects nationwide for the next decade, advancing from low levels to become an executive. In 1988, Shoigu became a minor functionary in the Abakan branch of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and then in the Komsomol for a few years. In 1990, Shoigu moved to Moscow from Siberia, and was appointed deputy chairman of the State Architecture and Construction Committee of the Russian Federation"

"From 1981 to 1986, Belousov was probationer-researcher and then junior researcher in the simulation laboratory of human-machine systems of the Central Economic Mathematical Institute. From 1991 to 2006, he was head of laboratory in the Institute of Economic Forecasting in the Russian Academy of Science. He was external advisor to prime minister from 2000 to 2006. Then he served as deputy minister of economic development and trade for two years from 2006 to 2008."

Makes sense if you also read the below. The new defence minister will have to bring down costs and enchance military spending efficiency
Yeah it could make sense. An econometric analysis of the current war situation could help improve the bang for the buck.
 
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SolarWarden

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Still not the craziest thing I saw in comparison to Rogozin being the head chief of Roscosmos before.


You overestimate the intelligence of Ukrainians when they moved 2 Patriot launchers closer to Avdiivka because Russians were going crazy with the use of FABs in the city which resulted in those launchers being super close together blowing up. Having another weapons package for more Patriots launchers makes it sound like something is destroying them if they received them before in the precious weapons package.
Seems you're avoiding the most important question... Why would Ukraine deploy a 2 missile launcher and radar meters from each other where the radar can get damage from a patriot launch? Because they are decoys. Arguing this is just coping that Russia was fooled and wasted an Iskander.

Btw Russians claimed those were s300 launchers then much later changed it. How convenient, huh? :rolleyes:
 

gelgoog

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Seems you're avoiding the most important question... Why would Ukraine deploy a 2 missile launcher and radar meters from each other where the radar can get damage from a patriot launch? Because they are decoys. Arguing this is just coping that Russia was fooled and wasted an Iskander.
Could it be that they don't want to use wireless communications between nodes which could be jammed and/or intercepted by the Russians? Could it be that they were in a hurry and didn't bother? Of course that never passes your mind.
 

blackjack21

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Seems you're avoiding the most important question... Why would Ukraine deploy a 2 missile launcher and radar meters from each other where the radar can get damage from a patriot launch? Because they are decoys. Arguing this is just coping that Russia was fooled and wasted an Iskander.

Btw Russians claimed those were s300 launchers then much later changed it. How convenient, huh? :rolleyes:
OK Russia destroyed nothing but decoy patriots which is why ukraine needs more decoy patriots, is that the right approach?
 
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