Suggestions for our Mod

Now Skorzeny and Goldenpanda, quit this untill it goes too far...

But to Goldenpanda as general, Like Skorzeny has pointed out you obviously haven't got any idea of how these kind of weapons are used in combat enviroment. This power-assisted hand-grenade is waste of resources, its as accurate as to fire firecrakers form your hand. It only possiple use would be somesort of over-long range hand-grenade thrower but to give that sort of weapon a anti-tank warhead? Ridicilous. Hand-grenades does the same trick with 10 times better cost-effectivines and if you really want to risk your life and go for anti-tank work, you can use dedicaded LAWs for that.

Most of you haven't used LAWs outside BF2, but us that have actually fired them in the outdoors knows that they are in facto the last dich of anti-tank weapons. The "last dich" means that they are really emergy weapons. You cannot destroy modern MBT without good premilinary planning and ambush strategies and with multible units using them and attacking on several angles. In finnish army, LAWs tough distributed to almoust all infantry troops, are collected together to dedicated "law-squads" that are tasked with several LAWs per combat-couple (a bad term but in here squads are divided to two-man sections) They are usefull against ACPs and in urban warfare but in true anti-tank work they are, just like us with D-30s directfiring mode only emergy solution.

This is illogical weapon and as the results shows it never went to fullproduction service, othervice all possiple terrorist around the world would be using this. My quess that this weapon is the failed attempt form chinese to try and developt a weapon to do the same role as the LAWs as they propably weren't able to desing such a weapon in those days. If Iremember correctly, Chinese adopted the LAW concept quite late compared to rest of the world (as with so many other things as well) but I wont say for certain as I cannot check it form the mainsite (which is down, again)

But as this discussion is getting too much to the worng side, I strongly suggest that you think twice before posting a reply. Exspecially when you really have no idea what you are talking about, keep quiet. If i spot certain kids posting their childish arguments based on the one and sole thetis (that china just is superior to all other) its considered as flaming and will be treated that way too.
Im not trying to convert you to the world of reason, only prevent clueless kids to not to belive such illogics Everyone is entitled to his own opinions and expecially point out if someone is wrong.

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I d perfered to be a frequent guests of sinodefence until I see this thread and feel obligated to registered in and make some sugestions to administration group of my favourite forum.

1st, Everyone has different knowledge background and individual career ,but technically wrong does not necessarily being legally wrong. you cannot deny one s right to talk simply because you think he is unknowledgable or he refuse to give up his idea.
For example , you can t gag me simply because I believe there is ET and refuse to accept your enlightenment.because forum are places encourage people to express their idea rather than educate them into believe a single one.

and I can see Goldenpanda is very reasonable , tring to prove his opinion. He doesn t post anything out of technical debate-----and weather his idea is technically right or wrong is in second place.

2nd ,I had thought that the power of modification and administration should not be mixed with the right of free commentation.

Gollevainen firstly officiate his power of mod and then use harsh words to oppose Goldenpanda.that will make a by-stander like me feel he is representing the aministration group and the rule of the forum to warn Goldenpanda.

Eg. if a peasant like me say:Bush is evil, No one will give a look,but if a official of Chinese gov say Bush is evil , that is a very very serious diplomatic accident because international community would think it s Chinese gov back him.

3rd As a mod, he who has the power to modify others, should not use warning and harsh words to support his commentation like Gollevainen did in his conclusion,because you can t be a judger and a lawyer at the same time. otherwise the opponent will feel great pressure to submit even if that s not your intention and that will not be a fair debate

If you wants to debate with other fairly ,you should separate your roles as a commoner from a mod by not using your adminstration power in technical debate.

the most famous example was Newton judge Leibniz over the case of calculous

4th The virtue of debate is towards the incident not to the people, in case the discussion downgraded to a vituperation, however the phrase :"those kids" frequently used by some Mod on his opponent is actualy a biggest flamethrower ever to provoke other people. and what if I am a kid in reality ?

5th To be a good Mod I suggest you not administrate people when you interesting in a thread, and not show your own interests in a thread when you amdinstrate people.that can help to solve conflict fair and just.

Don t get involved ,so you can be fair

BTW: I neither care nor fear to be banned by any gentlemen here because I am still prefer to be a by-stander.

BTW2o I have the right of suggestion en? or you ll delete it again because you simply don t have the courage to face it and improve your admintation ability ? abuse the power is very dangerous , from a democratic country you should know better than me that adminstration power, legislation power and inquisition power should be devided, and you simply want to have them all to make others bend to your idea. Just like Chairmen Mao want to interfere scientific research. However the truth comes from the nature principle within not from the dictator without .

I wish you could think it over before you ban me :roll:

You critisism would be called if this would be a civil society with democatic rules...but it isen't. This is a military forum which tries to sustain mature and objective athmosphere for discussion of military matters. Thus we have strict rules and zero-tolerance towards all BS.

Now in that particular thread the mix of "moderation-me" and normal me was inevidable as the the discussion was going to direction where rapid moves were nessary. In a situation where several of our vip-members discussed and analyzed certain weapon system based on their own knowledge and experience is highjacked by member with no clue what he was talking about with arguments that were solely based on nationalistic boasting and arguing-sake-for-arguing principles something had to be done. To try and save the entire forums face was bit larger motivation than the questionable mix of normal discussion with moderation. I did what was needed and would do it again if similar situations emerges.

Now that case is long past, all warnings and punishments are being executed and case closed. I strongly suggest that you leave it as well. If you have problems with our policy or forum rules, complain to our administrators, Webmaster or Dongfeng. Also if you wish to improve your ability to inflict the forum, be more active, take part of the actual discussions and earn your right to complain. But if you are here just for "by-stafer" then do it and keep quiet becouse there isn't much worse cases that we dislike than member who are not taking part of the discussion and giving their effort to building the forum and yet complains and tries to tell us how to do our job.

Ever,

Thanks for the post and your thoughts as well as some ideas.

I do not believe in banning people just because they criticize the way we do things around here or have an opinion. The ban is only implemented when that opinion is expressed in disrespectful and unprofessional manner. I appreciate you taking the time out and giving us some ideas, your thoughts and opinion, it can only improve the way we moderate and keep a professional image of the website alive.

I will respond to rest of your post later on today or tomorrow.

Regards,

Webmaster

In here members that are to be banned, are the ones that are menance to the forum. We have bomb solid system of three warnigs and then permanent ban, and imidiate ban for spammers. And warnings are given by the fact that member is to harm the forum outer appeareance.
Becouse the picture we give to the potential new members comes from the atmosphere that takes place in the actuall discussion and if compared to other forums that are out there, everyone can spot how little personal insulting, trolling, flaming, deliberate irritating takes place in SDFs discussion.

This has been achieved by taking zero-tolerance towards certain immature poster type that tryes to seek argument over every possiple opportunity, using every possiple weapon for it and therefore filling the threads with provocating BS that irritates others to act same way...


But it is still a myth to think that I, despite my sometimes hars appeareance would ban members simply becouse I dont like them. If that would be case, I would have allready kicked half of the forum out....ages ago

I would advise the mods and the super mods to use proper English secondly someone said to me that he knows about a convention on the use of moderation I would like to see that. I have been a mod and I can assure that person to stop fooling around. Thirdly his use of English is rather limited he doesn't even know or understand the meaning of simple word. If someone who hasn't studied English and comes around changing the meaning of words how would you react. Better learn than state how ignorant you are. I have been learning English for the past 14 years that's why I cannot tolerate someone who has been misguided and who is wrong to teach me English who knows what other mistakes he might have done. Only God knows better but for me someone isn't doing his part in this forum.

This is international forum that tryes to take members from all parts of the world, and If we would low ourselves to petty lingvistic purity, Such goal would be fruitless. Today we enjoy member base from all continent and from vast majority of worlds nations and that wouldnt have been possiple to gain if we would conduct such idiotism.

And what comes to my language skills, I have found out that in most cases when people dryes out of arguments, then they begun to pick on my limited english skills. I have always found it disgusting and offensive, and this case isent exception.

Also I have found it really disturbing when someone tryes to molestate our forum by bringin one's personal disputes to the public and falsely tryes to make them in contest with our forums policy and code of conduct.
But as you wish, Webmaster apparently gave you a strong indication to back off your personal vendetta towards me...I would suggest you to read our forum rules bit carefully before next time you feel like picking on me on public manners.