SM-3 Interceptor

walter

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Yes, that looks good for the SM-3. On a related note however, the PAC3 Patriot system failed its most recent intercept test at white sands. If anyone cares to google it they will not come up empty.
 

darth sidious

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yes the patriot is of questionale quality after the Iraqi war and the attack of the scuds but a think that the sm-3 would have a much better sucess rate after that experince

PS any have info on the silkworm attack in the last war ? heard the patriot failed also
 

walter

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well, I am not sure about the quality of the PAC3 being poor. Missle intercepts are just very difficult to achieve, and the PAC3 being a kinetic warhead has to be that much more accurate to destroy its target. So far all missle intercept systems are still in development stages, including the SM-3, even though they are deployed and considered operational.
 

darth sidious

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If the patriot can not intercept the old scud then it would have a had time aginst more morden missile beacuse the scud has nnno war head speratioon it much easier to intercept then one that has




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Sea Dog

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walter said:
well, I am not sure about the quality of the PAC3 being poor. Missle intercepts are just very difficult to achieve, and the PAC3 being a kinetic warhead has to be that much more accurate to destroy its target.

The latest test for the PAC-3 was only 3 failures out of 20. That means 17 successes out of 20. So therefore PAC-3 has an 85% success rate. Not exactly bad quality. But it will be improved, you can count on it. Especially with the experience the Navy is getting with SM-3 which has over 98% success rate. PAC-3 is a system that is being worked on at this time with major modifications. If it was as bad as most people in these forums seem to think it is, then so many nations around the world would abandon it. But it looks like many nations around the world are interested in purchasing it. So I'll defer to their military experts.

But I do think it's impressive that the US Navy is getting really good at shooting down ballistic missile targets and seperated warheads out of the atmosphere. I say PAC-3 will show similar success with it's role in the future IMO.
 

walter

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Sea Dog said:
The latest test for the PAC-3 was only 3 failures out of 20. That means 17 successes out of 20. So therefore PAC-3 has an 85% success rate. Not exactly bad quality.

Well, that's good news. Of course the article I read had no mention of successes, just the misses. And I could not have said it better, with all the interest in PAC3 internationally, it can't be bad. Patriot systems in Gulf War I initially were praised for their successes only later to be shown ineffective. This reputation has more or less followed the newer patriot systems. Whatever happened with the Silkworm miss in GW II also hasn't helped its reputation, understandably. So there are a lot of critics. Like I said before though, hitting a missle head on, like the kinetic warhead of PAC 3 is supposed to do, is to me unimaginably difficult. If any system designed to do this has a success rate of 50% or better, then it's pretty damn impressive in my eyes.

We often hear about US missle defense tests, whether successful or not, but what about the russian and chinese systems? I never seem to come across any articles about tests of these systems. Maybe some of the others here have read things (chinese articles?). Is the S-300 also for missle defense?
 

tphuang

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it also depends on the measuring stick of the tests. What constitutes a success and what constitutes a failure?

IN ODS, PAC-2 recorded 100% success rate despite failing to destroy even one scud.
 

darth sidious

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IF it can intercept a silk warm then i dont think it can intercept a YJ-62 missile :D in future conflict the enemy will be much better armed :D
 

IDonT

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You guys are missing the point. The silkworm in gulf war II was a cruise missile, ie it was flying low under the radar horizon. That argument is moot. If detected immediately, those are easy to shoot down.

PAC 3 missiles are designed to hit ballistic missiles. The major accomplishment of this test was that it hit a MULTISTAGE ballistic missile. That is very difficult because the radar has to distinguished which part of the ballistic missile is the one that still has the warhead and which part is the stage that is discarded.
 
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