report of China's interest in Tor-M1

tphuang

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this is from August 23rd edition of Janes

Not sure if this deal is going ahead of not.

Russian officials have confirmed the
validity to Jane’s of earlier
disclosures by Asian sources of the
revival of a Chinese effort to coproduce
the Almaz/Antei Tor-M1
(SA-15 ‘Gauntlet’) low- to mediumaltitude
self-propelled surface-to-air
missile (SAM) system.
The Asian sources contend such a deal
is nearly complete while Russian officials,
interviewed at the International
Defense Exhibition Land Forces (IDELF),
held in Moscow, between 2 and 6
August, noted that negotiations are still
under way.
China ordered a first batch of 13-15
Tor-M1s and up to 120 9M331 missiles
in 1997 and a second batch of 20
systems in 1999.
Jane’s reported in 2000 that
negotiations were under way for
co-production in China for up to 160
units, while in 2001 Russian officials
noted China would not be able to
reverse-engineer the Tor-M1.
Asian sources suggest that coproduced
versions will include the
naval variant Tor-M, the Klinok (SA-N-9
‘Gauntlet’).
Originally designed to provide
rapid-reaction automatic protection for
S-300-class SAM units, of which 20
battalions have reportedly been
ordered by the Chinese People’s
Liberation Army Air Force, the Tor-M1
is known to serve in just two Chinese
air defence regiments.
The revival of co-production
prospects may indicate a desire to now
defend the valuable S-300s with a compatible
purpose-designed system,
which has demonstrated an ability to
intercept precision-guided missiles. At
IDELF Russian sources also disclosed
that an upgraded Tor-M1 model will
include improved radar, better optical
tracking systems and improved software.
 

Schumacher

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I saw a news report, which I can't find now, referring to an upcoming Kanwa issue that says China & Russia has reached some kind of political agreement to increase military cooperation substantially, especially in the anti-missile area.
Apparently, the impetus is US's progress in this area, as well as its cooperation with Japan.
 

bomber

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this is from August 23rd edition of Janes

Not sure if this deal is going ahead of not.

China has just interested and seek to buy Tor M1SAMs ,IRAN and Burma had already bought from Russia.The news of Iran buying 700Millions$ worth29#Tor-M1.it can be confirmed but Burma buying TOR M1 SAMs may be wroung or
be rumoured,(Wekepedia shown 46#TOR M1 SAMs and some vairant type SAMs and 400#of SAMs are used at Burmese airdefence battery.)
others burma facts & figures of burmese aremed forces are very detail and correct .
APCs BTR3U #1000 nos will be finished in coming 2010.these APCs will be assembelled in burma(Some local News journal write 1000trucks will be manufactured in burma and finished at2010.)
Because I wrote too long for wekepedia website that it is 90%correct and we can refer it,s facts & figures.
Someone,who can confirmed or approved the data of burmese airdefences SAMs (wekepedia).
 

bakapa

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China has just interested and seek to buy Tor M1SAMs ,IRAN and Burma had already bought from Russia.The news of Iran buying 700Millions$ worth29#Tor-M1.it can be confirmed but Burma buying TOR M1 SAMs may be wroung or
be rumoured,(Wekepedia shown 46#TOR M1 SAMs and some vairant type SAMs and 400#of SAMs are used at Burmese airdefence battery.)
others burma facts & figures of burmese aremed forces are very detail and correct .
APCs BTR3U #1000 nos will be finished in coming 2010.these APCs will be assembelled in burma(Some local News journal write 1000trucks will be manufactured in burma and finished at2010.)
Because I wrote too long for wekepedia website that it is 90%correct and we can refer it,s facts & figures.
Someone,who can confirmed or approved the data of burmese airdefences SAMs (wekepedia).

The fact that everyone seems to be forgetting is that the recent gas drilling contract won by russian firms from Myanmar government. True enough that these SAM systems are expensive, however, Myanmar has recently found huge blocks of gas reserves. China, India, Thailand and Russia has been competeing to bid for the drilling rights. It is entirely feasible that Myanmar may have offset the payment for these SAMs with highly discounted gas drilling contracts for Russian firms, just as it has done for the MIG-29s acqusitions.

The facts and figures on Wikipedia has been confirmed by IISS Military balance 2007. Go buy a copy and read it up!
 
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