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LawLeadsToPeace

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Are there any good recent resources on the capabilities of the People's Armed Police as a military force? If feel like it's relatively underdiscussed, considering the size of the organization and the potential for employing them as drone-assisted light infantry or an urban combat force.
“Urban combat force” doesn’t exist. All professional militaries train in MOUT. However, the PAP has been shown to train in light infantry roles. For the past few years, they have been training to clear trenches along with attacking and performing reconnaissance with drones. In addition, I remember PAP personal doing a joint exercise with PLAN Marines many years ago, but I don’t know if they went beyond that. So, theoretically, if needed, they can support ground or naval infantry in ground combat.
 

plawolf

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“Urban combat force” doesn’t exist. All professional militaries train in MOUT. However, the PAP has been shown to train in light infantry roles. For the past few years, they have been training to clear trenches along with attacking and performing reconnaissance with drones. In addition, I remember PAP personal doing a joint exercise with PLAN Marines many years ago, but I don’t know if they went beyond that. So, theoretically, if needed, they can support ground or naval infantry in ground combat.

The PAP is made up overwhelmingly of decommissioned PLA, so they can absolutely be used as additional light infantry. However, to use them as such would be a monumental waste of resources, and it would be hard to think of any realistic scenarios where this would be required.

That is not to say the PAP won’t feature in any Chinese military plans, indeed, it’s precisely because they are almost certainly prominently featured that just using them as light infantry would be such a waste.

The PAP are basically PLA veterans who have since spec’d into counter-terrorism, anti-insurgency, hostage rescue, urban combat specialists, with the added bonus of police work soft skills in dealing with agitated civilians in a non-American-jackboot manner.

After the PLA has won the war, the PAP will be the ones most likely to be tasked with the mopping up operations and for winning the peace. Since their train, equipment and expertise will make them the most suitable forces China has for the role outside to top tier special forces. The PAP should be able to handle the task with far less collateral damage and civilian casualties, and potentially even fewer casualties than if PLA regulars were tasked to complete the same mission.
 

drowingfish

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If PLA needs additional light infantry they can simply drawn from reserves of recently retired infantrymen. within one year, just bring them in and give them gear, two-three years out, bring them in and do a quick month-long pre-deployment training.
 

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The PAP is made up overwhelmingly of decommissioned PLA, so they can absolutely be used as additional light infantry. However, to use them as such would be a monumental waste of resources, and it would be hard to think of any realistic scenarios where this would be required.

That is not to say the PAP won’t feature in any Chinese military plans, indeed, it’s precisely because they are almost certainly prominently featured that just using them as light infantry would be such a waste.

The PAP are basically PLA veterans who have since spec’d into counter-terrorism, anti-insurgency, hostage rescue, urban combat specialists, with the added bonus of police work soft skills in dealing with agitated civilians in a non-American-jackboot manner.

After the PLA has won the war, the PAP will be the ones most likely to be tasked with the mopping up operations and for winning the peace. Since their train, equipment and expertise will make them the most suitable forces China has for the role outside to top tier special forces. The PAP should be able to handle the task with far less collateral damage and civilian casualties, and potentially even fewer casualties than if PLA regulars were tasked to complete the same mission.
PAP is most likely going to be used for internal security/guarding the rear if war breaks out letting the PLA focus it's personnel on frontline duties without having to post them in the rear. However if China goes threw a Insurgency conflict then PAP will be the frontline force in this scenario with PLA providng support because PAP is trained for it while PLA is not fully trained on COIN. The xinjiang conflict is a perfect example as the all forces that fighitng Uyghur Jihadists in xinjiang are PAP and Xinjiang Police while PLA provides support.
 

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PAP is most likely going to be used for internal security/guarding the rear if war breaks out letting the PLA focus it's personnel on frontline duties without having to post them in the rear. However if China goes threw a Insurgency conflict then PAP will be the frontline force in this scenario with PLA providng support because PAP is trained for it while PLA is not fully trained on COIN. The xinjiang conflict is a perfect example as the all forces that fighitng Uyghur Jihadists in xinjiang are PAP and Xinjiang Police while PLA provides support.
it is also likely that PAP would take part in the COIN in Taiwan in the rear area
 

bsdnf

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PAP will definitely participate in the fighting, not just by being stationed behind the line of contact to prevent DRG infiltration. Like we saw in the early days of SVO, special operations forces of the Russian National Guard followed the regular army in the offensive against the Kiev region. The Mobile Corps, especially the 2nd Mobile Corps, are absolutely capable of assisting the PLA in urban combat. Their headquarters are in Fujian, and a lot of PAP's trench clearing and CQB training footage we've seen in recent years is from them; it's obvious what their role is.
 
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