PLA advance in anti-ship missile

cfl122

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Thought that readers of this forum might find this aricle in Jane Defence Weekly on the fast paced development of select critical Chinese naval technology to win symmetrical warfare against a technological advance adversary (USA) fascinating:


19 December 2006
Dragon's teeth - Chinese missiles raise their game

By Robert Hewson

China now builds and supplies missiles that can be used in combat from the beach, across the coastal/littoral environment, and out to extended-range engagements far over the horizon. This has largely been achieved through an evolutionary process of staged improvement.

At the same time, China has shown that it can embrace entirely new concepts to serve the essential operational requirements of the People's Liberation Army, the navy and naval air force, and the air force.

The potential use of tactical ballistic missiles against targets at sea is the best example of this and the intent that drives the process is clear: China has spent a great deal of time analysing how best to neutralise US naval forces in the Pacific - in particular the carrier strike groups.

C-602

The C-602 stands apart from the rest of China's anti-ship missiles because it is such a radical departure in terms of range and accuracy. It is effectively a cruise missile, repackaged for the maritime attack role. Its basic design is clearly scalable and the C-602's performance today is probably at the lower end of this configuration's theoretical capabilities. It has been offered on the export market since 2005.

At first sight the C-602 export designation would suggest a linkage to the much older C-601 missile (YJ-6/YJ-61 family), a 1960s-era Chinese design based on the Soviet SS-N-2 'Styx'. However, the turbojet-powered C-602 is a completely new, very modern design with a maximum range of 280 km.

Going ballistic

Most of what China has accomplished in the development of its anti-ship missile -capabilities parallels that of Europe, the US and elsewhere. But one element of China's ship-killing strategy stands out as a remarkable application of technology, and an unprecedented threat.

In Chinese terms, this is a Shashaojian - the assassin's mace - a 'silver bullet' weapon that would, literally, drop from the clear blue sky.

A 2004 report by the US Office of Naval Intelligence made it plain that China was developing the capability to use its DF-21 tactical ballistic missiles (TBMs) against tar¬gets at sea. The DF-21 carries a single warhead of about 500/600 kg over a distance of 1,500 km to 2,000 km, or more.

Designed as a nuclear delivery system, the DF-21 can also be fitted with a conventional payload. If made to work, such a weapon would be a 'carrier killer' without equal.

The development of this modified DF-21 coincides and is made possible by the developmentof Beidou and Sino advancement in space technology.
 

AssassinsMace

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I'd like to know why China's anti-ship missiles seem to be all under the range of 300km? Is that because the PLA wants to sell and export them as well and fall below the MTCR treaty allowances?
 

cfl122

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Some of China's new anti-ship missiles have ranges of more than 1500km.

China's rocket science has made tremendous leaps in the last decade partly augmented by the use of x-Soviet scientists and partly by the purchase of Western technology from countries such as Israel and France. Therefore, in many cases, the range of Chinese missiles is now a function of its designed uses rather than limitation in technology.
 

AssassinsMace

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Which ones?

If you're talking about the C-602 "cruise missile version" or this anti-ship ballistic missile system (which still remains to be seen) like mentioned in the article posted... yeah, but when it comes to AShM versions now, they all seem to come down below 300kms?
 

crobato

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I'd like to know why China's anti-ship missiles seem to be all under the range of 300km? Is that because the PLA wants to sell and export them as well and fall below the MTCR treaty allowances?

You already answered that question yourself. The 280km range quoted is only good on the paper it is written on. The domestic missile will probably fly further than that.
 

Gollevainen

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Or it can be just that Chinese hasent managed to get it fly that far....there isent many missiles of that size that would fly over 300km and still retain small antiship missiles charectaristics.
 

RedMercury

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Unless the sensors and command/control are good enough to locate a target and keep updating the position while the missile takes its time to fly there, there's no point having more range than you can handle. Every engineering question is a tradeoff, the tradeoff would be better spent elsewhere.
 

crobato

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It may also be the limits of whatever troposcatter or ductile refraction OTH targeting radar the Chinese may be using.

But I do find that cutting off at 280km to be just too convenient to suggest any other reason other than to make it fit under the 300km MTCR requirement.
 

tphuang

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It may also be the limits of whatever troposcatter or ductile refraction OTH targeting radar the Chinese may be using.

But I do find that cutting off at 280km to be just too convenient to suggest any other reason other than to make it fit under the 300km MTCR requirement.
I agree. If we look at the weight - warhead, we get 650 kg for yj-83 and 1050 kg for yj-62 after including booster.

If we use range of C-802 as basis. I guess around 200 km for YJ-83. Then yj-62 should be 200 x 1050 / 650 = 323 km. And honestly, I'd expect YJ-62 to have a larger, more modern engine than YJ-83, so it would be surprising for me if YJ-62's domestic version doesn't go beyond 300 km.
 

AssassinsMace

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As for the anti-ship ballistic missile... does anyone have an idea if this is single warhead or can it possibly go MIRV? Just wondering if they could launch these things from a submarine. A submarine platform would cover larger areas. Instead of a carrier killer, it could be a fleet killer.
 
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