Pilot unrest in India: Nearly 200 want to quit

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The Indian Air Force is facing a crisis after at least 200 pilots indicated they wanted to leave the service, a BBC investigation has discovered.

The pilots say poor working and living conditions, and the difficulty of living apart from their families, have prompted their decisions.

But they say the IAF is not allowing them to quit their jobs. One pilot attempted suicide after being refused.

The IAF said premature retirement cases were decided only after proper

scrutiny.


Having given the prime years of my youth to the country, what have I asked for? Just to be allowed to live with my family

Air force pilot

Many serving pilots spoken to by the BBC in different parts of India say they are no longer motivated to carry on in service while being separated from their families. They say deteriorating service conditions and a culture of "sycophancy being promoted by senior officers" is making it difficult for them to work.

They say the situation is aggravated by the authorities' refusal to allow them to quit.

'Victimised'

Figures obtained by the BBC show that between 2002 and 2004, 263 pilots were allowed by the IAF authorities to seek premature retirement.

However, in 2005 only eight pilots were allowed to leave.

The BBC has seen classified documents that show that one of those given premature retirement managed to do so only after he obtained a letter from a member of parliament.


The IAF says it spends millions of rupees on each pilot's training
One of the pilots, with more than a decade of service with the IAF, said he was dismayed at not having been given permission to leave the force, and felt victimised.

"Having given the prime years of my youth to the country, what have I asked for? Just to be allowed to live with my family. Even that is being denied," he told the BBC.

"I have been told by the authorities to shut up, otherwise I would be transferred to a place from where I would be able to do nothing," he said.

Air force response

Another pilot who was denied permission to leave attempted to commit suicide.

He is currently undergoing psychiatric help in an army hospital.

In a written response to the BBC, the IAF said: "When any officer of the IAF asks for premature retirement on compassionate grounds, these cases are investigated and, when found genuine, the officer is allowed to proceed on premature retirement."

The IAF also said it was investigating the suicide attempt.


We have to ensure that cockpit vacancies are kept filled at all times, as failure to do so would jeopardise national security

Indian Air Force

But the angry and frustrated pilots say they feel they made a mistake by joining the force.

Many of them challenge the IAF's claim that they are given basic facilities such as free accommodation.

One officer with more than 15 years of service said: "Whether you are posted in a small or a big city, you are not given an accommodation of more than two small rooms.

"If on a two-year posting, you are moving houses every six months. Only those who do it know the stress they undergo."

Commercial airlines

But the IAF says the terms and conditions of service are made known to the young men and women at the time of joining.

It says millions of rupees are spent on training them to become pilots.

"We have to ensure that cockpit vacancies are kept filled at all times, as failure to do so would jeopardise national security," it says.

But an added complication has been the emergence of many new private airlines in India that has led to a massive demand for trained pilots.

Many of them see the air force pilots as their best bet.

The BBC asked one of the pilots whether he and his colleagues were looking to leave the force to join commercial airlines for higher salaries and a better lifestyle.

"What is wrong even if we do plan to become commercial pilots?" he said in response.

"We have given the best part of our life to the country. I would also request you to have a look at the lists of candidates applying for commercial pilots' licenses.

"You would be shocked to find majority of those are relatives of senior commanders, and in some case these seniors themselves," he alleged.


Hmm.....what exactly is going on with the IAF? Senior commanders wanting to quit? I didn't beleive it at first but when I saw it was BBC I was shocked (BBC is one of the better Western media outlets).
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
wow.. sounds like india have a major morale problem here. why won't india let the pilots stay with family?? usually the family moves with the pilot and everything is paid for by the air force. several hundred pilots is a lot of people, and if allowed to quit it would have a huge effect on the effectiveness of the indian air force so i kinda agree with the government that pilots are not allowed to retire enmass. india have some of the best pilots in the world, they should get paid more to encourage them to stay with the air force, after all the most sought after commodity in the 21st century is probably going to be human talent.

try not to turn this into a indian bashing thread, BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING
 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
no country bashing allowed. we don't care if you care about insulting others.. but we certainly don't want other members feel insulted. EVERY nations have problems with crime and society, so cut the crap and get back on topic. this is about india's pilots not about social problems
 

Kampfwagen

Junior Member
Woah. Sounds like a serious problem, for sure. If this goes through, the IAF might have a Pilot shortage. If it dosent, it might just cause problems I cant even begin to think of.
 

crazyinsane105

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Hmm....the IA doesn't have problems like this. I was reading an article a couple of years ago of how the IA lets personel families live inside the military bases. Why the IAF doesn't allow that sorta surprises me. Also, with a massive budget, the IAF should also raise the salary of its pilots so that way less pilots would be inclined to leave.
 

Diving Falcon

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I thought that non-wartime operational bases are close to cities - and residential areas set up for personnel and families? That is what happens in PAF - like Faisal and Masroor AB are in Karachi, but personnel (as well as families) live in the city in a PAF residential compound. I assumed that PAF and IAF being similar in terms of socialization, rank-designations, and being born under RAF would be similar when concerning their personnel.
 

maglomanic

Junior Member
Diving Falcon said:
I thought that non-wartime operational bases are close to cities - and residential areas set up for personnel and families? That is what happens in PAF - like Faisal and Masroor AB are in Karachi, but personnel (as well as families) live in the city in a PAF residential compound. I assumed that PAF and IAF being similar in terms of socialization, rank-designations, and being born under RAF would be similar when concerning their personnel.

Diving Falcon,

I know first hand that in Masroor Base families live inside the base. I did my schooling at PAF school in Masroor base and the entire school is surrounded by residential bunglows for officers. Then there are colonies for other staff too.It's true for almost all the PAF major bases (i.e families live with the personnel).
By the way both bases are pretty much inside the city you can say (there was a time when they used to be outside city limits but city has swallowed them both now)
 

Diving Falcon

Junior Member
I know first hand that in Masroor Base families live inside the base. I did my schooling at PAF school in Masroor base and the entire school is surrounded by residential bunglows for officers. Then there are colonies for other staff too.It's true for almost all the PAF major bases (i.e families live with the personnel).
The PAF residential area in Karachi is near the Air Force museum, last I could recall anyways. But personnel and families do live in the base in Barabear (Peshawar) and Mushaf (Sargodha). But the cities or commercial districts are not very far from the residential compounds.
 

DPRKUnderground

Junior Member
India must adopt a new policy. It looks like they are concentrating a little too much on getting new planes. They should get families to live on the bases or help them get houses near the bases. They need to adopt a policy similar to the USAF.
 

stunner

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I think at a time when pakistan is ready to upgrade and replace most of its air fleet (Aeging mirages,f-7s,A-5) with jf-17,j-10 and new f-16's(the pakistani parlement has given aproval) india need to seriously think about this problem.Bcoz if you have weapons, you also need trained people to fire it. And right now, pakistan doesnt seem's to have a problem like this.
 
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