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Remember during the early part of the conflict, it was the US and the West that did not want to see a negotiation because the propaganda was Ukraine was winning and beating the Russian bear so a continued war was in their interests. Now it's Russian and China that don't want to see an end? Is it because they're the ones that see defeat. They accuse of China of indirect aid to Russia as the reason to Russian victories of late. Look at how that beats the West's direct military aid and support for Ukraine.
 
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Remember during the early part of the conflict, it was the US and the West that did not want to see a negotiation because the propaganda was Ukraine was winning and beating the Russian bear so a continued war was in their interests. Now it's Russian and China that don't want to see an end? Is it because they're the ones that see defeat. They accuse of China of indirect aid to Russia as the reason to Russian victories of late. Look at how that beats the West's direct military aid and support for Ukraine.
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China can support Russian war effort through dual used goods sold by private companies. Imagine if they start explicitly supporting the war effort by sending weapons, it's been 2 years - China could have delivered 1k+ new tanks, millions of artillery shells, hundreds of helicopters, thousands of IFVs and other ground support vehicles. Heck, they could even produce and replace russian black sea fleet
 
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There's even more!

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All those behaviors are more "jungle" than "jungle", being a politician of a so-called "garden".
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These practices are found in cults. Specifically, satanic cults that oppose Abrahamic religions. Self humiliation and covering with excrement, blood, semen. For some, it is just a manifestation of rebelling. For others, it has a "functional" purpose... or so they believe (i.e. summoning the devils).
 
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tokenanalyst

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Imagine if they start explicitly supporting the war effort by sending weapons, it's been 2 years - China could have delivered 1k+ new tanks, millions of artillery shells, hundreds of helicopters, thousands of IFVs and other ground support vehicles. Heck, they could even produce and replace russian black sea fleet
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It would be game over for Ukraine in a month or two at best.
 
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“Free trade” generally tends to benefit the dominant economic power, at the expense of weaker economies. It is no coincidence that the US began preaching “free trade” only after it achieved economic dominance, in the mid-20th century, after
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to heavily protectionist measures to support its manufacturing sectors, just as Britain had done before it.
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But China has since surpassed the US as the world’s manufacturing powerhouse — and it has now climbed all the way to the top of the value chain. America’s embrace of protectionism is, therefore, an admission of weakness, as it is demoted to no-longer-hegemonic status. In this respect, it makes sense for the US to not want to be completely dependent on China in increasingly critical manufacturing sectors, and to build up its own cleantech industrial base.
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America officially has a position of weakness. But they are still verbally bullshitting as if in position of strength. Their actions and verbose simply don't match.
 
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