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august1 said:

Most foreigners are exactly the same in China. You should hear some of the unbelievably bigotted sh*t I had to put up with when I worked with a group of young and supposedly "left-leaning" college-educated Americans at a gaming company in Beijing. They take the exact same views they have towards Asians in their home countries and just port them over to China. Expecting slavs to be any different is just naive. Hell, some of the worst bigots I've ever encountered in China were second-gen diaspora Chinese (mostly of the Hong Cuck variety). The problem with Chinese people is that they naively believe foreigners should like and respect them as much as Chinese like and respect foreigners, as well as Chinese people's weird obsession with portraying white men as figures of benign authority, and just China's greater acceptance of foreign men and disinterest in foreign women in general. Is it a Confucian or maybe even a Freudian thing?

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PandaAI said:

China needs to move away from the liberal foreign worshipping Dengist mindset. Too many boomers in government that don’t understand how to fight the modern culture wars. Allowing feminism to thrive inside China is one monumental mistake of losing the culture war. The culture wars should be fought as fiercely as the anti-corruption movement.

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Valentine said:

This is supported by personal experience and work with foreign workers in China, primarily from Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, as well as studies at Chinese universities. In 80% of cases, this was the case, and this was the case in 2016, 2019, and even 2024. Read Russian forums and websites and see what Russians call the Chinese.

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manqiangrexue said:

You're not Chinese, are you? You don't think like Chinese. For us, we know that treating guests well reflects on the generosity and magnanimity of the host, since the guest has put himself in the host's hands, voluntarily showing trust and vulnerability. That is our culture.

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An American scientist who has studied underground nuclear tests has been detained in China for more than 18 months on spying charges, according to his supporters and a US lawmaker.


Youlin Chen, a seismologist, has been “wrongfully detained” since November 2024, US Senator Edward Markey said in a statement Tuesday.

President Donald Trump raised Chen’s detention and asked for his freedom during a meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing in May, according to Global Reach, a US non-profit that has been working with Chen’s family on his case.

Chen, who was living in Boston and has a college-age son, is the only American currently held in China designated as wrongfully detained, the non-profit said.

The case adds another point of friction between the US and China as they try to stabilize ties, and ahead of Xi’s expected visit to the US later this fall. Its revelation comes weeks after China confirmed the arrest of another US scholar, Min Zin, who it said is “suspected of spying and endangering Chinese national security.” [...]
Global Reach said there are suspicions that Chen’s detention is linked to China’s recent expansion of its nuclear capabilities, including carrying out an alleged underground nuclear test in 2020. Beijing denies this test.

China and the US have both signed, but not ratified, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) – an international agreement prohibiting “any nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion.”

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An American scientist who has studied underground nuclear tests has been detained in China for more than 18 months on spying charges, according to his supporters and a US lawmaker.
Youlin Chen, a seismologist, has been “wrongfully detained” since November 2024, US Senator Edward Markey said in a statement Tuesday.
President Donald Trump raised Chen’s detention and asked for his freedom during a meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing in May, according to Global Reach, a US non-profit that has been working with Chen’s family on his case.

Chen, who was living in Boston and has a college-age son, is the only American currently held in China designated as wrongfully detained, the non-profit said.
The case adds another point of friction between the US and China as they try to stabilize ties, and ahead of Xi’s expected visit to the US later this fall. Its revelation comes weeks after China confirmed the arrest of another US scholar, Min Zin, who it said is “suspected of spying and endangering Chinese national security.”
Global Reach said there are suspicions that Chen’s detention is linked to China’s recent expansion of its nuclear capabilities, including carrying out an alleged underground nuclear test in 2020. Beijing denies this test.
China and the US have both signed, but not ratified, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) – an international agreement prohibiting “any nuclear weapon test explosion or any other nuclear explosion.”

Chen’s work focuses on using seismological data to improve methods to identify and monitor nuclear tests. It has included research into North Korea’s underground nuclear testing.
Chen’s research has been funded by the US State Department and US Air Force Research Laboratory.
In December 2020, he authored a technical report that used regional seismic data recorded across Asia, including data from stations in China, to improve methods for nuclear-test monitoring and yield estimation, according to Global Reach.
A subsequent 2024 study that he authored was also funded by the US Air Force Research Laboratory and the US Department of State and “further reinforces Chen’s expertise in the seismic monitoring and detection of underground nuclear tests,” the group said.

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Chen was detained at the airport after visiting his parents in Beijing, according to Kieran Ramsey, chief investigative officer at Global Reach.

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“China is being accused … by the State Department of violating (the CTBT),” Ramsey said. “And at the same time they’re holding the American expert that would be able to identify that exactly.”

“Unfortunately, this case is an example of China being willing to use hostage diplomacy as part of their great-power competition with the US and unfortunately Doctor Chen is the sole example right now officially designated by the US government,” he added.

Earlier this month a pastor who founded one of China’s most prominent underground churches was released from prison and reunited with his family in the United States after being detained in a crackdown in China last year. His release came after Trump raised his case with Xi during his May visit.

A State Department spokesperson told CNN that the US has raised Chen’s case directly with Chinese officials and called for his immediate release.

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Valentine said:

This is supported by personal experience and work with foreign workers in China, primarily from Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, as well as studies at Chinese universities. In 80% of cases, this was the case, and this was the case in 2016, 2019, and even 2024. Read Russian forums and websites and see what Russians call the Chinese.

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horse said:

To be honest, I am not interested in such culture wars. Although I may have opinions, and like what I like, this is not something I want to do, to indoctrinate others, on culture, not at all.

TThe reason is rather straightforward. During the May 4th movement, the leading intellectuals of China, to them it was science and democracy, which was going to save Chinese civilization.

The May 4th movement, was also referred to as the new culture moment.

To make a short version of this post, we Chinese have been there and done that. After 100 years since the original new culture movement of modern times in China, how much have we really changed?

Not much, and it is a mixed bag.

There will always be some people who want to change things, and others who want to not change anything.

One thing did change, was we got rid of the feudalism. But after that, everything is sort of debatable, to varying degrees.

Chinese culture is very mysterious. And enduring.

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