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Bellum_Romanum

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Canada is the country that deserve every bad thing that is happening to them. They are really close to be annihilated economically by Trump, you would expect to them find alternative economics partners. Maybe try to fix their relation with China, the biggest economy in term of PPP. But no, is about digging a deeper hole for themselves.
You can't expect Canada under the current regime to just go cold Turkey against the U.S. because Canadians like it or not are still very much America centric at heart. The changes we seek and long for takes time to cultivate and mature into the noggins of the majority of folks that have been conditioned and grown up to the American might and fascistic benevolence.

It's not at all realistic to expect the current set of political leaders to go against the entirety of U.S. led interests without getting annihilated in the process. The Canadian security apparatus and State are in my view littered with U.S. spies and maligned influence that ensure Canada doesn't deviate too far from its purpose.
 

tokenanalyst

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You can't expect Canada under the current regime to just go cold Turkey against the U.S. because Canadians like it or not are still very much America centric at heart. The changes we seek and long for takes time to cultivate and mature into the noggins of the majority of folks that have been conditioned and grown up to the American might and fascistic benevolence.

It's not at all realistic to expect the current set of political leaders to go against the entirety of U.S. led interests without getting annihilated in the process. The Canadian security apparatus and State are in my view littered with U.S. spies and maligned influence that ensure Canada doesn't deviate too far from its purpose.
Maybe, but they should at least reduce the antagonistic tone.
 

taxiya

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Why are they so dishonest like that? It's another level even compared to the west.

It's like every statement you see that comes from them, you need to double check it. It's very draining and tiring. At this rate it would be more efficient to just dismiss every statement until proven to be correct without a doubt.
That is the essence of how liars work. You double check you loose, you give them any chance, you loose. The only way of dealing these people is "once a liar, forever a liar".
 

CMP

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That is the essence of how liars work. You double check you loose, you give them any chance, you loose. The only way of dealing these people is "once a liar, forever a liar".
It's like digging through a mountain of human shit to find a kernel of half-digested corn. If you're even contemplating engaging in such an activity, you're already insane.
 

4Tran

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I was thinking like you too for a long time. Why don't China just take Aksai Chin for Zangnan? But after 2017, this is no longer acceptable. Its because the Indian elites don't just want Aksai Chin and Zangnan. They want Xizang (Tibet) too. They have been harbouring and propping up that Dalai Lama and his CIA-made Tibetan separatist "government" on Zangnan for decades now. They have been talking about Xizang as if it is their backyard. Whenever they speak about their border with China, they specifically say that they have a border to with Tibet instead of China. So they have never respected the One China Principle despite their official stance. So no, Zangnan needs to return to China permanently, and they need to capture or exile that Dalai Lama and his separatist gangs for good.

The Indian government and elites can never ever be trusted. They always double speak, and they have trouble sticking to agreements. Give them Zangnan, and China is officially recognizing Indian ownership over the Dalai Lama and ancient Tibetan lands, along with their historical sites. Pretty soon, we are going to hear the Indians start demanding for the rest of Xizang. India had its chance when China was more agreeable, and it went to war anyway. So that opportunity is gone, and should never return.
China isn't interested in any kind of conflict right now. At the current rates of progress, the PLA will overtake the US military around 2035. Any war threatens to push that date farther and farther behind. It's just not worth it. Yes, there's always some danger with negotiating with India, but I'm pretty sure that the Chinese negotiators know just how untrustworthy India is. As such, I don't expect the negotiations to be very fruitful, but there's always some hope. After all, China has managed to settle their borders with every country other than India and Bhutan, and finishing the whole set can be very handy in the future. Right now, India isn't a threat and they're in a weak enough position that they might actually take some sort of deal.

Why are they so dishonest like that? It's another level even compared to the west.

It's like every statement you see that comes from them, you need to double check it. It's very draining and tiring. At this rate it would be more efficient to just dismiss every statement until proven to be correct without a doubt.
India will make a lot more sense when you understand that what they need the most is validation. They need to be seen a great power, so you can see all the chest thumping whenever India manages to achieve something that the big boys do. If it means stretching the truth, they'll absolutely do it.

And the funny thing is, while China's style was very different, it used to need validation in the same way. Way back in the '80s, it'd be headline news any time a foreign leader would pay attention to China. Back then, it used to be mostly small countries in Africa, but it was still treated as a big deal.
 
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