Korean stealth fighter!

Roger604

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Wow check this out. South Korea is considering whether to fund a stealth fighter program. It looks..... a lot like the pictures we've seen...... of the J-XX! :confused: I guess they can get access to US technology to help them along too.

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Gollevainen

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Whats the prizetag in the Korean plane? Could it be that it just a toy and someone is stating it being a real project? Is there anything to confirm that Koreans are actually developing a sthealth figter and this is what it should look?
 

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IMO these are just stop-gap efforts in playing catch-up to the F-22 (or even F-35). To go beyond the F-22, you need stealthy unmanned combat aircraft (UCAV). Current developments include the Boeing X-35 and Dassault Neuron:
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The technology is still quite new and under development. But the advantages of unmanned air combat vehicle are many. Being unmanned, you don't need to account for pilot weight, life support, cockpit, or limitations on how many G's you can pull before the human pilot blacks out. Computer/combat AI doesn't require many years of flight training, barracks, salary, health benefits, sick leave, or retire after few years to fly 747's for more pay.

In terms of cost savings, a human pilot requires constant training to maintain his/her edge. It consumes a lot of manpower and materials, not to mention wear & tear on the aircraft. Most combat aircraft's airframe can only be used for couple thousand hours without major overhaul, much less time for engines. A UCAV, on the other hand, can sit in a canister for 10 years and only require periodic system check. The cost savings can also translate into additional UCAV's and robotic maintenance & re-arming/re-fueling stations, giving the UCAV user numerical advantage with a disposable platform.

Just as Kasparov was defeated by Deep Blue, in the future there will be no fighter jocks, only nerds (engineers, programmers) and computers.
 
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Roger604

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Gollevainen said:
Whats the prizetag in the Korean plane? Could it be that it just a toy and someone is stating it being a real project? Is there anything to confirm that Koreans are actually developing a sthealth figter and this is what it should look?

At least we know some wind-tunnel tests were done. But we don't know whether the Korean Air Force is seriously interesting in pursuing this program. The name of the experimental fighter in the video is KFX-101 and KFX-201.

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Kampfwagen

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I dont beleve I have ever seen canards on a stealth fighter. Wouldin't that make the aircraft's profile stand out easier?
 

mahairchin

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Wow check this out. South Korea is considering whether to fund a stealth fighter program. It looks..... a lot like the pictures we've seen...... of the J-XX! :confused: I guess they can get access to US technology to help them along too.

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[qimg]http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/7570/kfx17sw.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/586/kfx32fc.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/2205/kfx53eq.jpg[/qimg]

They just have to make radars that emit in larger wave length that simple:china:
 

Ambivalent

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IMO these are just stop-gap efforts in playing catch-up to the F-22 (or even F-35). To go beyond the F-22, you need stealthy unmanned combat aircraft (UCAV). Current developments include the Boeing X-35 and Dassault Neuron:
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The technology is still quite new and under development. But the advantages of unmanned air combat vehicle are many. Being unmanned, you don't need to account for pilot weight, life support, cockpit, or limitations on how many G's you can pull before the human pilot blacks out. Computer/combat AI doesn't require many years of flight training, barracks, salary, health benefits, sick leave, or retire after few years to fly 747's for more pay.

In terms of cost savings, a human pilot requires constant training to maintain his/her edge. It consumes a lot of manpower and materials, not to mention wear & tear on the aircraft. Most combat aircraft's airframe can only be used for couple thousand hours without major overhaul, much less time for engines. A UCAV, on the other hand, can sit in a canister for 10 years and only require periodic system check. The cost savings can also translate into additional UCAV's and robotic maintenance & re-arming/re-fueling stations, giving the UCAV user numerical advantage with a disposable platform.

Just as Kasparov was defeated by Deep Blue, in the future there will be no fighter jocks, only nerds (engineers, programmers) and computers.

UCAV's will be flown as frequently as manned aircraft, if for no other reason than to gain and maintain proficiency. For the USN and USMC, UCAV's will operate under the command of a manned aircraft, most likely an F-35 will lead four UCAV's. They will be useful in the early stages of a war for high risk ground attack missions and DEAD in conjunction with other aircraft.
UCAV's are no different than any other complex tactical jet in that you cannot put them away some where in storage without a lot, and I mean a lot, of preparation and preservation, all of which must be undone to bring the UCAV back up to operational readiness. Stored in their container? Ho ho, we unpack ordinance and bomb racks from their containers and leave the containers on the dock when we go to sea. There isn't enough room for containers on a CV, ordinance is stored on racks in the mags.
UCAV's are not as simple as a missile by any means, and even those require regular overhaul. You would be surprised how short the shelf life is for some missiles.
 

MrClean

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IMHO these pics are just really expensive models of what that the Koreans might be experimenting with such as wind tunnell tests,TVS,or RAM, and I don't think the Koreans or the Japanese combined could go toe 2 toe with the Raptor. Besides, for these aircraft to go into full produduction stage, they would have to go through alot more tests/requirements than I can remember, but here are the basics: Sucessfull launch of ordnance from her intenal weapons bay, and LGB/GPS guided muinitions, the exact amount of Stealth the aircrcraft would have in any combat scenerio, thrust to wieght ratio, and ofcourse SuperCruise!:

And from what I see from these pics, most of the ordnance is loaded on the wing pylons which makes the the aircraft a whole lot less stealthy. :p
 
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