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In addition to the J-10 fighters, Iran is reportedly negotiating the purchase of Chinese HQ-16 SAM systems

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The HQ-16 medium-range anti-aircraft missile system (HongQi-16, 紅旗16, "Red Banner-16") is designed to engage enemy aircraft, cruise missiles, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles at ranges up to 40 km day and night in all weather conditions.
 
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Iranian news media (Khorasan news per
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This has apparently been picked up by some Western media too (
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My two cents:

I would take this with a grain of salt until more information is available, preferably from reliable Chinese sources. These Iranian interest in J-10 as been reported for the past decade leading to nothing, although the recent SCO defense minister visit in Qingdao and Israel/US war does heightened the urgency for a deal.

On face value, multiple converging events makes this a natural possibility, from the end of UNSC weapons/arms sanctions on Iran in 2020, and inability of Russia to deliver Su-35 as ordered, demonstrated Israeli/US air superiority over Iran, as well as J-10CE's combat-tested results. Even if Su-35 does get fulfilled, J-10CE is a natural numerical filler for Iran's obsolete airforce, and arguably superior to Su-35 in avionics/sensors/missile... Even the basic presence of a 4.5 gen will complicate Israeli air operations. Now from China's perspective, it's really about payment (China does not want oil-jet barter, but cash preferably), and perhaps an more enduring pause on hostilities.
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IMO I would take this not only with "a grain of salt" but with a huuuuuge pile of salt:

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IMO exactly the same amount of truth that Egypt already has them, Pakistan will get J-35A "soon" and other such nonsense spread by fanatic fan-boys or the stupid main-stream-media that only picks up random internet-rumours to spin fancy stories and facts are not only irrelevant but even more, often enough moreannoying!
 
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If Iran does not eliminate domestic traitors and improve the discipline of the national army, anyone can imagine the scene of all Chinese weapons being detonated by spies before they are even shipped out of the warehouse at the beginning of the battle. Not to mention that the J-10C without a complete air combat system is simply unable to confront the F35I squadron with a complete set of American systems. This is still a massacre.
 
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Sinnavuuty said:
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In addition to the J-10 fighters, Iran is reportedly negotiating the purchase of Chinese HQ-16 SAM systems

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The HQ-16 medium-range anti-aircraft missile system (HongQi-16, 紅旗16, "Red Banner-16") is designed to engage enemy aircraft, cruise missiles, helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles at ranges up to 40 km day and night in all weather conditions.
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I don’t see the point of posting random messages from telegram channels.
 
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Nevermore said:
If Iran does not eliminate domestic traitors and improve the discipline of the national army, anyone can imagine the scene of all Chinese weapons being detonated by spies before they are even shipped out of the warehouse at the beginning of the battle. Not to mention that the J-10C without a complete air combat system is simply unable to confront the F35I squadron with a complete set of American systems. This is still a massacre.
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From China's POV, its up to Iran to decide how to employ the things they buy. The question for China is what it can gain from Iran by sending such advanced weapons when no one in the world is willing to sell to them. Some huge strategic concession must be demanded before China sells anything. Basically Iran should become a Chinese client state before China agrees to sell the advanced stuff.
 
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