Since the "ideal PLAN FFG" armchair admiral thread is so popular, I thought I'd open one for DDG.
China has 2 major shipyards that build DDG's, Dalian Shipyard and Jiangnan Shipyard. Based on what we've seen with 051C vs. 052C, it'd appear that Dalian Shipyard tends to build ships with more imported Russian hardware, versus Jiangnan Shipyard tends to use domestically produced hardware.
In my hypothetical scenario, Dalian Shipyard is commissioned to build a new class of ASW DDG, while Jiangnan Shipyard will build ASW DDG's. I'll start with the ASW DDG.
Assumptions:
The ASW DDG will resemble the 051C with extended aft deck. The center section of the ship, where the SSM's go, will be replaced by a smooth superstructure housing 2 x 8-cel VLS system. The ship will weight approx. 6,000 - 8,000 tons.
Since this ship is being built in Dalian, we'll assume it uses many imported Russian systems. For accuracy, I used mostly systems listed in the Rosoboronexport Naval Systems Export Catalogue, located here:
ASW Systems
* 2 x 3S-14E (Kalibr-NKE) eight cel VLS for 91RTE2 ASW Missile, 3M-54TE super-sonic SSM, 3M-54TE1 subsonic SSM, and/or 3M-14TE LACM.
* RKPTZ-1E ASW system with 2 x KT-153E 10-barrel RL + auto-loader. The system can be armed with 111SG ASW rocket, 111SZ torpedo barrage rocket, or 111SO acoustic decoy rocket.
* 2 x 4 Paket-E/NK 324mm Anti-torpedo rockets
* ZARYA-ME sonar suite with underkeel, towed, & dipping sonar array
* Pallada or Anapa-ME combat swimmer detection sonar
* DT-65 anti-saboteur system with 2 x 10 barrel grenade launcher w/RG-55M underwater grenades
* PMK-2 ASW Mine system (? rounds)
* 2 ASW helicopters
Non-ASW Systems
* 76mm or 100mm Main Gun
* Shtil-1 ADMS with 24 x 9M317E SAM (arm launcher or 24-cel VLS)
* Kashtan ADGMS with 2 x 3R87-E combat modules + below-deck automatic reloader, with 64 x 3M311-1E SAM and 6,000 x 30mm rounds
* PK-10E decoy system with 2 x KT-216 sixteen-tube RL
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Originally, I was going to suggest installing 2x4 RPK-6 Vodopod (SS-N-16a) ASW Missile. But this system is not listed for export, and is quite old. I suspect the Russian Navy will retire it along with the SS-N-15 in near future. So I opted to stick with Klub-N system.
If 2 Kalibr-NKE VLS systems are too heavy, we can go with 1 Kalibr-NKE system + 6-cel Medvedka-VE (RPK-9) VLS system. If the Medvedka-VE is not ready, the older 2 x 4 retractable box launchers will work too. Also, if space and weight permit, we'd prefer to have 48-cel SA-N-12 VLS system.
I've left out other parts such as sensor suite and engines. It's assumed that the ship would be equipped with necessary sensors to operate the weapon systems, i.e. KMSUO fire-control for Shtil-1 ADMS and 3R-86-1E C&C for Kashtan ADGMS.
If this ASW ship will be used for data-link with shore-based ASW stations, we can also add AMGA-K system.
This ASW DDG follows my "triple layer" concept:
* ASW Detection:
Towed array sonar
Bow/hull mounted sonar
ASW helicopter dipping sonar
* ASW Attack
Helicopter-dropped torpedos
Klub-N ASW ASROC
111SG ASW rocket
* ASW Defense
Paket-E/NK anti-torpedo system
111SZ torpedo barrage rocket
111SO acoustic decoy rocket
* Missile defense:
Shtil SAM
Kashtan SAM
30mm CIWS gun
In addition, this ship will have passive ASW attack capability through PMK-2 ASW mine system that can either be remotely controlled, or programmed for automated detection/attack:
This ASW DDG is equipped with mostly imported Russian weapon suite as a stop-gap measure, since the PLAN does't have ASROC weapons ready. Let's call it CDX(ASW) for Chinese Destroyer X (ASW). I hope I've made it as realistic as possible with existing weapon systems that can be imported by the PRC.
For the air defense destroyer, it'd be equipped with mostly domestically made systems, which I'll get to later. We'll call that one CDX(ADS) for Chinese Destroyer X (Air Defense Ship).
China has 2 major shipyards that build DDG's, Dalian Shipyard and Jiangnan Shipyard. Based on what we've seen with 051C vs. 052C, it'd appear that Dalian Shipyard tends to build ships with more imported Russian hardware, versus Jiangnan Shipyard tends to use domestically produced hardware.
In my hypothetical scenario, Dalian Shipyard is commissioned to build a new class of ASW DDG, while Jiangnan Shipyard will build ASW DDG's. I'll start with the ASW DDG.
Assumptions:
The ASW DDG will resemble the 051C with extended aft deck. The center section of the ship, where the SSM's go, will be replaced by a smooth superstructure housing 2 x 8-cel VLS system. The ship will weight approx. 6,000 - 8,000 tons.
Since this ship is being built in Dalian, we'll assume it uses many imported Russian systems. For accuracy, I used mostly systems listed in the Rosoboronexport Naval Systems Export Catalogue, located here:
ASW Systems
* 2 x 3S-14E (Kalibr-NKE) eight cel VLS for 91RTE2 ASW Missile, 3M-54TE super-sonic SSM, 3M-54TE1 subsonic SSM, and/or 3M-14TE LACM.
* RKPTZ-1E ASW system with 2 x KT-153E 10-barrel RL + auto-loader. The system can be armed with 111SG ASW rocket, 111SZ torpedo barrage rocket, or 111SO acoustic decoy rocket.
* 2 x 4 Paket-E/NK 324mm Anti-torpedo rockets
* ZARYA-ME sonar suite with underkeel, towed, & dipping sonar array
* Pallada or Anapa-ME combat swimmer detection sonar
* DT-65 anti-saboteur system with 2 x 10 barrel grenade launcher w/RG-55M underwater grenades
* PMK-2 ASW Mine system (? rounds)
* 2 ASW helicopters
Non-ASW Systems
* 76mm or 100mm Main Gun
* Shtil-1 ADMS with 24 x 9M317E SAM (arm launcher or 24-cel VLS)
* Kashtan ADGMS with 2 x 3R87-E combat modules + below-deck automatic reloader, with 64 x 3M311-1E SAM and 6,000 x 30mm rounds
* PK-10E decoy system with 2 x KT-216 sixteen-tube RL
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Originally, I was going to suggest installing 2x4 RPK-6 Vodopod (SS-N-16a) ASW Missile. But this system is not listed for export, and is quite old. I suspect the Russian Navy will retire it along with the SS-N-15 in near future. So I opted to stick with Klub-N system.
If 2 Kalibr-NKE VLS systems are too heavy, we can go with 1 Kalibr-NKE system + 6-cel Medvedka-VE (RPK-9) VLS system. If the Medvedka-VE is not ready, the older 2 x 4 retractable box launchers will work too. Also, if space and weight permit, we'd prefer to have 48-cel SA-N-12 VLS system.
I've left out other parts such as sensor suite and engines. It's assumed that the ship would be equipped with necessary sensors to operate the weapon systems, i.e. KMSUO fire-control for Shtil-1 ADMS and 3R-86-1E C&C for Kashtan ADGMS.
If this ASW ship will be used for data-link with shore-based ASW stations, we can also add AMGA-K system.
This ASW DDG follows my "triple layer" concept:
* ASW Detection:
Towed array sonar
Bow/hull mounted sonar
ASW helicopter dipping sonar
* ASW Attack
Helicopter-dropped torpedos
Klub-N ASW ASROC
111SG ASW rocket
* ASW Defense
Paket-E/NK anti-torpedo system
111SZ torpedo barrage rocket
111SO acoustic decoy rocket
* Missile defense:
Shtil SAM
Kashtan SAM
30mm CIWS gun
In addition, this ship will have passive ASW attack capability through PMK-2 ASW mine system that can either be remotely controlled, or programmed for automated detection/attack:
This ASW DDG is equipped with mostly imported Russian weapon suite as a stop-gap measure, since the PLAN does't have ASROC weapons ready. Let's call it CDX(ASW) for Chinese Destroyer X (ASW). I hope I've made it as realistic as possible with existing weapon systems that can be imported by the PRC.
For the air defense destroyer, it'd be equipped with mostly domestically made systems, which I'll get to later. We'll call that one CDX(ADS) for Chinese Destroyer X (Air Defense Ship).
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