Fighter Jet VS Armed Helicopter. Who wins?

hanqiang1011

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Dear all,

I always have this thought. If a fighter jet vs an armed helicopter. Who will prevail as the winner?

Anyone sharing the same thoughts?

Regards
 

siegecrossbow

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Almost always fighter jets.

I do think that the Iranians shot down fighters with helicopters before during the Iran-Iraqi War but I'm not too sure.
 

Finn McCool

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You're right siegecrossbow, that did happen. But with the spread of look-down shoot-down capability amongst fighter jets, that sort of a shot (which is already extremely lucky) would be almost impossible to do again. In truth, the fighter should win every time.

Speaking of crazy kills made from helicopters, in the Vietnam War, a CIA base (Lima Site 85, later overrun by the communists in a famous battle) in Laos was bombed by 3 Pathet Lao An-2 biplanes. An American Huey helicopter with a CIA crew took off to chase them away and one of the biplanes was shot down by the only armament the Huey had: a guy shooting an AK-47 out of the door!
 
You're right siegecrossbow, that did happen. But with the spread of look-down shoot-down capability amongst fighter jets, that sort of a shot (which is already extremely lucky) would be almost impossible to do again. In truth, the fighter should win every time.

Speaking of crazy kills made from helicopters, in the Vietnam War, a CIA base (Lima Site 85, later overrun by the communists in a famous battle) in Laos was bombed by 3 Pathet Lao An-2 biplanes. An American Huey helicopter with a CIA crew took off to chase them away and one of the biplanes was shot down by the only armament the Huey had: a guy shooting an AK-47 out of the door!

ROFL that was pure ownage. only in movies, and that was hilarious. let's not forget helicopters only stand a chance earlier on when technology gap isn't as big, so they stand a very minor chance. also the example mccool gave was when back when technology wasn't that big of a factor, and in fact, bending on the american's favor. we can almost say that the huey was more high-tech than the biplane, therefore something like that happens.

these days..well we all know how sophisticated fighters are (with stuff such as gen5 planes and their AESA and toys...), as well as all the advantages they have in performance, especially speed. helo only beats fighters on the battlefield where sustained periods of close infantry and battlefield supports were needed, and the ability to hover, hide, low speed manuverability etc.

in contrast to mccool's examples of helo killing fighter, in the gulf war, a f-15 made the most unorthodox AA kill against a chopper. the f-15 spotted a hovering helo, and then by targetting the helo, it dropped a smart bomb on it and killed it lol
 

Finn McCool

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Yes, the best thing a helicopter can hope to do if enemy fighters are around is hug the ground, fly through valleys and behind hills, and radio for some fighters of their own while while booking it to get closer to their own air defense, because once the fighters spot them they are toast.
 

zelder

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You guys are uninformed. Helicopter wins by a ratio of 5 to 1. Helicopter kicks ass and totally dominates the battle. This was proven clear back in 1979 by US experiment "J-CATCH". The doctrine for figher pilots ever since J-CATCH has been this: "stay the hell away from armed helicopters".
 
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zelder

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Sorry for breaking the rules.

I thought I would add that 1979 was a long time ago and maybe things have changed. The new IRIS-T and Python 5 missiles have given the fighter jet 360 degree attack capability. I suppose the jet could fire an IR missile at max range and then quickly get outside the range of the helicopter missiles. But, if the helicopter could be fitted with something like an AMRAAM missile then the fighter jet is again the looser because the fighter can't use an AMRAAM due to ground clutter. Maybe an anti radiation missile could be used against the helicopter instead.

Again, inside a "dogfighting" range envolope, helicopter has a strong 5 to 1 advantage. But like I said, new 360 degree missiles could be changing that fact.

cheers!
 
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