East Asian Concerns

An article in Asia Times on line by Peter Lee concerns the relations of the East Asian countries to each other and to the US:
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It ties the many questions playing in the area together and seems suitable for further consideration.

Summary of the article,

Will "the Communist regime in Beijing be able to keep its economic, political, and social agenda on track under more stressful conditions."?

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My answer hell if I know (too soon to tell) but what's the fun of being a rising power if there are no obstacles on your way to the top.

The article seems to embrace an East Asian version of the Monroe Doctrine in which the emerging Great Power of the U.S. enforced a policy of a global hemispheric monopoly. But whereas the U.S. could dominate under-developed and relatively isolated nations in the 19th Century Americas, it seems a bit outlandish to believe the East Asian region would aspire to an Imperialist model as template for today.

To expect the U.S. to turn inward and pull up her stake at China's doorstep is to hope for a repeat of the Depression Era's policy of Isolationism. A policy that brought not peace and prosperity, but conflict and destruction.

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sigh...

Carthago Delenda est.
the sole superpower will make war onto china simply because it might have the capacity to challenge its status in the future. how dare they work hard, be prosperous, and not under our thumbs!

jantxv said:

The article seems to embrace an East Asian version of the Monroe Doctrine in which the emerging Great Power of the U.S. enforced a policy of a global hemispheric monopoly. But whereas the U.S. could dominate under-developed and relatively isolated nations in the 19th Century Americas, it seems a bit outlandish to believe the East Asian region would aspire to an Imperialist model as template for today.

To expect the U.S. to turn inward and pull up her stake at China's doorstep is to hope for a repeat of the Depression Era's policy of Isolationism. A policy that brought not peace and prosperity, but conflict and destruction.

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This of course is the type of argument imperialists et al utilize to justify 'shock and awe' on anyone who doesn't automatically subscribe to their viewpoint, after all the majority of aggressive war particularly in the past 50 years have been instigated by the western powers on non-western states to force them to do their bidding.

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US is too weak to act unilaterally against china or any other major nuclear power without fatal consequence for it's entire population.

The best it can do is attack chinese pawns with it's own pawns, but china is getting mighy hard to handle. That's just the consequence of economic, demographic and military growth. China can only grow relatively stronger, and the US relatively weaker. This applies to the west as a whole vs the emerging world in south america, east asia and the indian sub-continent.

China has been pretty damn good at making strategic errors without outside prompting in her past history Eg Giving up her blue water fleet in the Ming dynasty, thinking that she had everything she needed thus banning foreign ideas and trade in the Manchu era, the disastrous great leap backwards of the 1950s followed by the Cultural Revolution so the West might be contemplating on whether it was wishful thinking to expect for more fwack ups..

bladerunner said:

China has been pretty damn good at making strategic errors without outside prompting in her past history Eg Giving up her blue water fleet in the Ming dynasty, thinking that she had everything she needed thus banning foreign ideas and trade in the Manchu era, the disastrous great leap backwards of the 1950s followed by the Cultural Revolution so the West might be contemplating on whether it was wishful thinking to expect for more fwack ups..

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Unfortunately, given the amount of resources the west is investing to actively stop China's rise, the west don't seem to be as stupid as some thinking China falling by its own strategic misstep is a high probability event.

Schumacher said:

Unfortunately, given the amount of resources the west is investing to actively stop China's rise, the west don't seem to be as stupid as some thinking China falling by its own strategic misstep is a high probability event.

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Actually the West is spending a great amount of resources in China to help her rise. Almost every major domestic auto manufacturer in China today has a major foreign partner helping them build better cars. The best selling automobile in China today is a Buick. I-Phones and I-Pads production in China enable the Chinese to be an integral part of the global economy.

The policy of the Chinese Leadership has been to engage, be a part of, and share in the success of building a more harmonious human society. To push for a economically segregated region that excludes a majority of the world's population is not only counter to sound economic policy, it is counter to what China has accomplished since embarking on a policy of market reform inaugurated by the National Party Congress's 11th Central Committee in 1978.

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jantxv said:

Actually the West is spending a great amount of resources in China to help her rise. Almost every major domestic auto manufacturer in China today has a major foreign partner helping them build better cars. The best selling automobile in China today is a Buick. I-Phones and I-Pads production in China enable the Chinese to be an integral part of the global economy................

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I believe what you're describing is 'business' instead of being anyone 'helping' anyone else.