Do you think US company TriQuint allowed supply components for China AESA radar?

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lilzz

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US's AESA radar and phase array radar components mostly coming from this company. Do you think it would be allowed to be supplier for CHinese weapon System?

TriQUint has voted as the most popular semiconductor brand in CHina.


HiLLSBORO, Ore. & SHANGHAI--(EON: Enhanced Online News)--TriQuint Semiconductor, Inc. (NASDAQ:TQNT) a leading RF front-end product manufacturer and foundry services provider, announced it received China Electronics News’ (CEN) “Most Popular Semiconductor Brand in China” award for 2009. This award recognizes TriQuint’s brand influence, sales revenue, product performance and service, as well as localization efforts in China. Award recipients were chosen by a combination of the CEN editorial team and the results of an online poll on CEN’s website.

TriQuint established business in China in 2001 and provides radio frequency solutions for mobile devices, wireless communications network infrastructure and foundry services. TriQuint has worked to establish a footprint in China by opening offices in Shanghai, Shenzhen and Zhongshan, launching a Chinese language website, and working with local universities to increase awareness of radio frequency technology.
“We are honored to receive this award from China Electronic News,” said Ting Xiong, China Country Manager of TriQuint. “In 2010 TriQuint is celebrating its 25th anniversary and over the course of our history, we’ve worked hard to deliver innovative, high-quality products that enable the devices and networks for voice, data and video. We are pleased that our efforts to partner with Chinese companies are recognized by readers of China Electronic News.”
 
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latenlazy

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lilzz said:
US's AESA radar and phase array radar components mostly coming from this company. Do you think it would be allowed to be supplier for CHinese weapon System?

TriQUint has voted as the most popular semiconductor brand in CHina.


HiLLSBORO, Ore. & SHANGHAI--(EON: Enhanced Online News)--TriQuint Semiconductor, Inc. (NASDAQ:TQNT) a leading RF front-end product manufacturer and foundry services provider, announced it received China Electronics News’ (CEN) “Most Popular Semiconductor Brand in China” award for 2009. This award recognizes TriQuint’s brand influence, sales revenue, product performance and service, as well as localization efforts in China. Award recipients were chosen by a combination of the CEN editorial team and the results of an online poll on CEN’s website.

TriQuint established business in China in 2001 and provides radio frequency solutions for mobile devices, wireless communications network infrastructure and foundry services. TriQuint has worked to establish a footprint in China by opening offices in Shanghai, Shenzhen and Zhongshan, launching a Chinese language website, and working with local universities to increase awareness of radio frequency technology.
“We are honored to receive this award from China Electronic News,” said Ting Xiong, China Country Manager of TriQuint. “In 2010 TriQuint is celebrating its 25th anniversary and over the course of our history, we’ve worked hard to deliver innovative, high-quality products that enable the devices and networks for voice, data and video. We are pleased that our efforts to partner with Chinese companies are recognized by readers of China Electronic News.”
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It's a common strategy for China (and other countries) to get companies to buy technology that can be used in both a domestic and military setting. I wouldn't be surprised if whatever R/F and semiconductor tech transfers that may have happened in the last thirty years (not just with TriQuint) contributed to China's military development.

Whether TriQuint deliberately sold technology components specific for AESA is less clear. Any component that's a critical component of military hardware is usually deemed trade excludable and can't be dealt without authorization from Congress. Likely if they did sell technology that helped China develop AESA they sold whatever components they were allowed to sell and turned a blind eye to their potential military applications.
 
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luhai

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Actually US export restrictions to China is extremely
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, it's
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. These restrictions meant commercial application with a bit of sophistication
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. Mean US allies such as Israel don't have those restriction. (And Germany, France and Japan has far less strict export controls to China, for commercial applications at least) This meant these much easier ways for the technology to get thorough.

Also for AESA, the bottle neck is in cost reduction, reliability and size restriction. Since it's nothing for than increase the number of
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. (As long as you can make decent MMICs and FETs it's easy, but reliability is what kills you) After all its much easier to make sure a few
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and thousands of phase-shifter working rather than thousands of
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workings...

However, the new GaN techology might change everything, and China isn't that
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. Again the question is can they make it reliable enough, US military pays a huge preium to make it possible, wonder how the Chinese military do it.
 
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luhai said:
Actually US export restrictions to China is extremely
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, it's
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. These restrictions meant commercial application with a bit of sophistication
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. Mean US allies such as Israel don't have those restriction. (And Germany, France and Japan has far less strict export controls to China, for commercial applications at least) This meant these much easier ways for the technology to get thorough.
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Of course, but when it comes down to practical terms dual use technologies are much harder to spot and enforce. That's where China has been focusing a lot of its "legal" foreign technological acquisitions from, and that's what I was referring to. And of course there are other ways around directly buying the technology. The amount of business flow and FDI between the US and China makes it easy to subvert these export restrictions.
 
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luhai

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The problem is for Dual-use techs, it's not worth it to get it from US the export way. They can do it legally through Europe and sometimes Japan. For example the GaN Amplifier I cited is more 15 times the power limit US allowable for export to China; but since it is from an UK company it's all good.

And for technologies that Europe didn't have, well, chances are its will be impossible to export to China through US anyway.
 
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latenlazy

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luhai said:
The problem is for Dual-use techs, it's not worth it to get it from US the export way. They can do it legally through Europe and sometimes Japan. For example the GaN Amplifier I cited is more 15 times the power limit US allowable for export to China; but since it is from an UK company it's all good.

And for technologies that Europe didn't have, well, chances are its will be impossible to export to China through US anyway.
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While I agree, I also think that having a foreign company operating in Chinese soil gives China a lot of loopholes to exploit, and I would definitely wager most of their technological acquisitions from the US if any probably aren't by the "export way". The biggest problem is that export laws are hard to enforce, especially in such a situation as foreign companies with operations in China.
 
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