Do you know the great militarist"Sun ZI"

scott

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Do you know the great militarist "sun zi",he written the "sun zi strategics",maybe it is the first book about military affairs.Have you read the book.if you read it,please talk about it,i want to hear your opinion on it.
 

Ender Wiggin

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Do you mean Sun Tzu? the writter of the Art of War (at least theotetically)? I have the book somewhere, as well as clauswitz vom krieg.
 

scott

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Ender Wiggin said:
Do you mean Sun Tzu? the writter of the Art of War (at least theotetically)? I have the book somewhere, as well as clauswitz vom krieg.
yes ,thank.
 

PiSigma

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why is everyone only have one-liners??? Scott, next time you start a topic please start it off by giving your own opinion, so people can comment. thanks
 

woodli2006

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I know Sun ZI, because I'm Chinese. He is very famous in China.But it's a pity that I haven't read the book "Sun ZI Bing Fa(Sun ZI strategics)".It's difficult to read archaic chinese books.They are hard to understood for me.Maybe I can read it later.:D
 

Obcession

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Wasn't the Art of War required for German officers to read in WWII (I or II, I forgot)?

Yea, I know it. In pinyin Sun Tzu is spelled Sun Zi. I've read his Art of War a number of times, each time going deeper into the hidden messages (between the lines). Woodli, how old are you? I'm still in high school and I can read the original WenYanWen text no problem.

Anyway, I think it's an awesome book, I own a copy along with "Thirty Six Strategies". If anyone of you are interested in reading it, just use google. I must say, the English version loses a lot of its original "between-the-lines" meanings.

The Art of War covers the overall strategy of a nation, to campaigns, to large battles. It is because of this aspect that the book is still very relavent today, instead of meadling with small matters, such as "you should put your troops into a formation of squares instead of circles", persay. It can be viewed as an overall planning guide to a general.
 

Choy

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I like the Art of War very much. It's not a politics book, I would say it's more to strategy. Of course, one problem in reading ancient Chinese books is there are lots of hidden meanings left for you to think about yourself. Some of my friends alwasy told me "Quite often, the book talks a lot of thing which are common sense and not suitable for this century" And I just replied "really" with a smile. In my heart, those were not common sense, it's just they didn't get the meanings behind and they don't know how to apply what they read.

The Art of War might have only 2000+ words, but if someone really want to explain in detail, I am afraid 200,000 words wouldn't be enough.

When I read about Chinese history, especially those about wars, I always found how the generals or politicians applied what were mentioned in the art of war. And alwasy remember 1 thing, the easier a war is won, the harder to find out the strategies applied.
 
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