Deep Submersible SAM (DSS)

:nonoeep Submersible SAM (DSS)


1 Sonar detectors in the bow, flank, and arm and another towed behind the tail.

2 Attachment/rotation balls to be used to rotate arms and tail for diving, surfacing and angular movements. Arms can rotate back and forth, up and down and also sideways to facilitate rolling movements. Tail can move all 360 degree in a circle to facilitate pitching (up/down, left/right, angular) and yawning movements.

3 Engines on arms and tail

4 Vents for diving and surfing.

5 Capacity of four SA missiles

6 Entrance hatch.

7 Thermal imaging and low light cameras to give a 360-degree view. Also includes satellite, radar and navigation services and a flare launcher.

8 Vertical stands to facilitate standing at the ocean depth. Allow knee movements from middle joint to stand even on an irregular service.

9 Exit hatch. Also used to release countermeasures.

10 Capacity of four missiles / torpedoes

11 State-of-the-art, high resolution, xenon technology, ultra-low-light rotating camera with flashlight on either side, for target acquisition/ designation and dark vision sensor, thermal and digital imaging, mapping, which enables to navigate and conduct precision strikes.

12 Multi function phased array radar to track air and surface targets.

13 Engine arm attached to rotating ball.

14 Tail attached to rotating ball.

15 Phalanx CWIS.

Purpose:

To provide a low to medium range air defence capability in deep blue waters in large numbers other than frigates and destroyers.

Features:

· It needs to surface for air defence operations.
· Air and water treatment units to convert seawater into fresh water and oxygen. Purification of air to remove CO2, H and CO.
· Crew of four people i.e. captain, (radar/submarine/ air defence) operator, (sonar/ (sub/under) surface defence) operator and (technician/ submarine) operator.
· Use of rubber tiles to achieve ultra quiet propulsion.
· Can also be used for deep submerged research and rescue tasks.
· Able to do multi-directional, omni-directional movements just like a fish.

Interesting idea, but these craft can't be self-sufficient, so they got to be attched to a mothership or something, espeically for the suggested blue-water operation.

How will the crew be fed, sleeping space, etc...

jwangyue said:

Interesting idea, but these craft can't be self-sufficient, so they got to be attched to a mothership or something, espeically for the suggested blue-water operation.

How will the crew be fed, sleeping space, etc...

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well remember the Japaneses did it with a midget submarine attack into Australian waters

PrOeLiTeZ said:

well remember the Japaneses did it with a midget submarine attack into Australian waters

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Wasn't all that effective mind you...

Uh, how do these craft detect an aircraft? Is the radar array supposed to float on the surface tethered to the sub below? What is the radar horizon of this? How easy would it be for an enemy to find this radar and take it out ( think HARM or AARGM ), blinding your sub? Where is this CIWS? On the surface too? Just asking.

Oh man..

This thing is too sci-fi.

Why don't you just attach a mini-sub to a Destroyer through a wire?

Mini-Sub SAM


Engagement



This type of SAM has potentially 2 advantage :
1. It could leave much less reaction time to the evading aircraft.
2. It could shoot down enemy aircraft before they come close enough to lauch AShCM.

cloyce said:

Oh man..

This thing is too sci-fi.

Why don't you just attach a mini-sub to a Destroyer through a wire?

This type of SAM has potentially 2 advantage :
1. It could leave much less reaction time to the evading aircraft.
2. It could shoot down enemy aircraft before they come close enough to lauch AShCM.

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Won't work; the radar won't have enough range to see, especially if line of sight is involved due to the curvature of the earth. The attacking airplane can simply fly near sea level and sneak in until the last minute and you still have a dead ship.

Pointblank said:

Won't work; the radar won't have enough range to see, especially if line of sight is involved due to the curvature of the earth. The attacking airplane can simply fly near sea level and sneak in until the last minute and you still have a dead ship.

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I think the OTH radar tecnology will be able to do it.

Even if you solved the sensor problems, the idea still isn't going to work.

You seem to have assumed that the cable is a purely one-dimensional entity with no volume. Here is the news for you: it won't be a one-dimensional entity.

Have you thought about how thick that cable would have to be in order to withstand the tension over 400 km? Have you thought about how much space that cable would take up when the system is not deployed? Have you thought about how heavy that cable would be?

You would have to pay extra for the sub, pay extra for the cable, pay extra to make the tubes water tight, pay extra for the missiles themselves to be water tight, pay extra so the missiles can be launched from undersea. Not only that, you have to sacrifice the size, therefore sacrifice the range of the missiles so that they can be fitted onto the mini-sub.

It is a dumb idea, and it isn't going to work. End of story.

Wouldn't it be simpler to modify the technology of the Kite sail to loft a RADAR array a couple thousand feet extending the RADAR coverage many times over?

It would not be useful for a carrier but a destroyer could carry it putting it on the periphery of the battle group?