Now we look at iOS apps and top 4 are all Chinese.
This is an interesting trend.
This is an interesting trend.
Chinese OS and software ecosystem
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All these Chinese app getting banned, while American flocking to chinese apps. I wonder if there was an opensource chinese OS, then it might have been very successfull now. Does Any mobile OS apart from harmony OS exits now ?
Harmony OS?
@sunnymaxi
My post got mass deleted, or assumed off-topic because of an FLG joke
However, what are your thoughts on Loongson's lack of native software?
It is very difficult for a niche architecture to achieve successful commercial adoption. Look at the PowerPC/POWER which was used by Apple, despite having a captive user base, it was abandoned
Now Apple re-adopted self-designed chips, but on the mass-adopted ARM architecture
Here is one analysis that notes the poor software optimization for the Loongson chips
Don't mind the clickbaity title. That site is actually very complimentary of the ability of Loongson to design chips, the biggest hold up in their opinion is software optimization as above, and also lack of access to cutting edge processes.
At this point, Loongarch seems like an academic exercise, like if somehow China lost all access to ARM, x86 tomorrow, it would not have to totally start from ground zero.
My post got mass deleted, or assumed off-topic because of an FLG joke
However, what are your thoughts on Loongson's lack of native software?
It is very difficult for a niche architecture to achieve successful commercial adoption. Look at the PowerPC/POWER which was used by Apple, despite having a captive user base, it was abandoned
Now Apple re-adopted self-designed chips, but on the mass-adopted ARM architecture
Here is one analysis that notes the poor software optimization for the Loongson chips
Don't mind the clickbaity title. That site is actually very complimentary of the ability of Loongson to design chips, the biggest hold up in their opinion is software optimization as above, and also lack of access to cutting edge processes.
At this point, Loongarch seems like an academic exercise, like if somehow China lost all access to ARM, x86 tomorrow, it would not have to totally start from ground zero.
It's closed source. Harmone NEXT is closed source.
There are so many mistakes in this massage and the article..
1. Loongson has now access to cutting edge microchips. they did hint about 7nm last year.
2. LoongArch architecture is fully commercialized software. they don't use ARM.
3. in this article they mentioned older CPUs like 5000/6000 series but didn't even mention Loongson's 3C6000 and incoming 6600 series.
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just read this article please
Chinese chipmaker teases “world-leading” performance of next-gen 7nm CPU — 3B6600 rocks eight LA864 cores clocked at 3 GHz
And probably the most interesting nugget from Hu, was a request for information regarding the architecture and performance of the upcoming Loongson 3B6600 processor. Hu underlined significant architectural changes that have been implemented with the 3B6600. Thanks to these LoongArch changes, and we would presume a range of other optimizations, the new CPU would deliver a single-core performance “expected to be in the world's leading ranks,” asserted Hu.
OpenHarmony OS is open source.I believe Harmony OS is derived from it but is closed source.
I read that one, but since the chip is not yet released so it is forward looking.
7nm will get them far in performance, this is about where Intel's desktop chips are now.
LoongArch is well-documented, and I've read a lot of programmers are curious about it, but basically there is not much availability outside China which is a major limitation to commercial success.
Contrast this to something like Huawei which has a global footprint and distribution and service network that could deploy HiSilicon hardware.
Upstream is still open source. Harmony OS NEXT is based on OpenHarmony 5.0. NEXT has API compatibility with OpenHarmoney API 12. Apps will be interoperable between the two, or other OSs derived from OpenHarmony 5
