Chinese Camouflage Colors

I'm working on doing some side profiles of far-future Chinese equipment (read 2214 era equipment), and while it's easy to find US Federal Standard color chips online, it's much harder to find the equivalent for Chinese colors.


PLA(N) Marine Corps style camo Wheeled vehicle.


PLA style camo.

Camo colors are taken from

but the colors are off a bit.

PS - in this future, NORINCO is a munitions supplier to the US Military, through a NORINCO plant built outside Warrenton, VA; much like Beretta has a factory in Accokeek, MD.

MKSheppard said:

I'm working on doing some side profiles of far-future Chinese equipment (read 2214 era equipment), and while it's easy to find US Federal Standard color chips online, it's much harder to find the equivalent for Chinese colors.

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PLA(N) Marine Corps style camo Wheeled vehicle.

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PLA style camo.

Camo colors are taken from

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but the colors are off a bit.

PS - in this future, NORINCO is a munitions supplier to the US Military, through a NORINCO plant built outside Warrenton, VA; much like Beretta has a factory in Accokeek, MD.

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Maybe you can create some flying saucers and levitating vehicles with laser blasters. As for camouflage, you can apply active camouflage like that of an octopus. I don't know about you, but that's how I envision the far-future army.

Lol this is funny, but seriously, is discussing technology 200 years in advance a little ff ? If your working on a novel, this would be an appropriate thread but maybe in the club room.Trying to anticipate future technology that far ahead is like trying to guess what aliens look like. IMO, I think camo by then would be definitely be some form of active camo rather than passive(if it isnt already past that stage), using the capture-and-project concept. If troops are supposed be equipped with little LCDs on their gear, I don't see whats wrong with doing it with vehicles.

dollarman said:

Lol this is funny, but seriously, is discussing technology 200 years in advance a little ff ?

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Well, I was asking if China has anything approximating US Federal Standards Colors; because the US still has FS numbers assigned to WWII paints, even if we long ago used up any stock; so it's likely that existing Chinese paints would be extended forward into the future.

Trying to anticipate future technology that far ahead is like trying to guess what aliens look like.

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Well, basic laws of physics would still apply, along with cost-effectiveness ratios.

MKSheppard said:

Well, I was asking if China has anything approximating US Federal Standards Colors; because the US still has FS numbers assigned to WWII paints, even if we long ago used up any stock; so it's likely that existing Chinese paints would be extended forward into the future.



Well, basic laws of physics would still apply, along with cost-effectiveness ratios.

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I said "Maybe you can create some flying saucers and levitating vehicles with laser blasters. As for camouflage, you can apply active camouflage like that of an octopus. I don't know about you, but that's how I envision the far-future army." You can reply to mine if you want.

Dang Shep, is that you from SD.net?

Ryz05 said:

I said "Maybe you can create some flying saucers and levitating vehicles with laser blasters.

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Electromagnetic energy, whether it's from a flashlight, a laser, or from a radar, all works by the inverse square law; the further the distance from the emitter, the weaker the energy is. The Russians didn't put huge half-a-megawatt radars onto their MiG-25s or MiG-31s for nothing after all...

Simply put, while anti-gravity, if it's ever invented, would be a godsend for ground vehicles (you can now use the entire surface area of the bottom of the vehicle as a support, making ground pressure fall dramatically); it wouldn't work so well for aircraft flying several thousand meters above any sources of mass to react with.

As for laser beams; even they suffer from distance losses; there's a reason that industrial cutting lasers are usually placed only a few inches above the material they're about to cut; and the energy requirements for vaporization of even the most average material is going to be prohibitive; far beyond any reasonable power density we can achieve with safe technology (no way are we going to minaturize blackholes for use as vehicle powerplants!)

As for camouflage, you can apply active camouflage like that of an octopus. I don't know about you, but that's how I envision the far-future army."

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And this active camouflage is going to defeat thermal sights how? We're already seeing decent uncooled thermal sights appear that don't cost too much and weigh much (relatively speaking). Extrapolate that into the far future, and it looks likely that even the poorest soldier in the poorest nation is going to have access to thermal sights.

Plus; what happens when your active camouflaged material is hit by bullets, and cannons? Will the active material be able to be replaced as easily and cheaply as painting over the nice scorch marks and shiny bare metal at bullet impact points with a bucket of FS 23213?

I can see such active material being used by special forces who are always constantly looking for any advantage, no matter how tiny, even if the cost is exhorbitant.

*ahem*

Swerving this topic back onto the original track; looking on google newsgroups; I found that apparently the following colors are good approximations of the paint scheme on the very first Type 98 MBTs which appeared:



German Panzer Yellow
German Panzer Green
FS34079

Hmm, T96G and T98, looks more and more alike.

why would they be using shovels 200 years into the future?

interesting though.

maffiaw said:

why would they be using shovels 200 years into the future?

interesting though.

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They used shovels back in the American Revolution, and guess what? We still use them!

[QUOTE=Well, basic laws of physics would still apply, along with cost-effectiveness ratios.

But we cant be sure that our laws of physics are absolute. Another reference back, before we flew, physicists claimed any object with greater mass than air go higher than air. Although their still technically corrrect, we've found ways to overcome that in most practical applications (planes!)