Chinese Air Force related exports thread

AndrewS

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I know, @angadow has always to be taken with a spoon of salt, but is there something on it? Even more does he want to say "The UAE has signed a letter of intent to purchase a medium-sized stealth aircraft, and theoretically, it has no interest in the Su-75." ... so the only other option would be the KF-21 (IMO unlikely) or the J-35E (with now the L-15 flying and a TA-20 soon to be manufactured in the UAE??)??

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Remember that the US gave the UAE an ultimatum.

Choose the F-35 or Huawei.

And the UAE chose Huawei.
 

mshrief303

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Remember that the US gave the UAE an ultimatum.

Choose the F-35 or Huawei.

And the UAE chose Huawei.

No offense, but the F-35 issue is because of US policy towards the middle east for the sake of Israel's superiority and advantage in the region, and they won't sell the plan for UAE to gain the experience and make the precedent to selling F-35 to the middle east which will open the way for multiple states from the gulf to own it later. And the F-35 is one of the most valuable cards (carrots) that the US uses, so it's hard to give away that carrot finally and loses it's bargaining power.

Huawei is a great company and I'm a big fan, but they're not at the center of this issue.
 

Originname

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especially the part with AEW-assets and most of all a gun-ship version sounds much too much like a fan-boys Wet-dream.
Chinese aew&c/fighter jets vie with embraer saab erieye/western fighter jets.

Gunship for special ops aviation against some uncontrolled groups in Afghanistan territory. After clash incidents Tajik-Afghani border efforts their sof patrolling capabilities.

Male uav: anka-s or wingloong
Gunship: looking for
Heli: Mi-171sh, mi-35m, ec145/h145m.
Ac352 or hal rudra

They are ready to spend money and take credit for militarization

I have a lot of inside info and rumors about 中亚五国
 

Deino

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Chinese aew&c/fighter jets vie with embraer saab erieye/western fighter jets.

Gunship for special ops aviation against some uncontrolled groups in Afghanistan territory. After clash incidents Tajik-Afghani border efforts their sof patrolling capabilities.

Male uav: anka-s or wingloong
Gunship: looking for
Heli: Mi-171sh, mi-35m, ec145/h145m.
Ac352 or hal rudra

They are ready to spend money and take credit for militarization

I have a lot of inside info and rumors about 中亚五国


But how could they get a gunship-Y-9-variant, when there is no such type today? How likely is such a development for a foreign customer?

By the way, any news regarding the robots with J-10CE & Uzbekistan?
 

tamsen_ikard

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Remember that the US gave the UAE an ultimatum.

Choose the F-35 or Huawei.

And the UAE chose Huawei.
And UAE also kicked out all Chinese links to G42 just so they can prevent US export control. UAE is heavily dependent on US not just for security, military hardware, training, linkage. UAE elites also have lots of investments and life in US and the west. UAE economy depends on western expats living and travelling there. They are heavily compromised.

With Trump being so aggressive, I find it hard to believe that UAE would buy Chinese stealth fighter and US would allow it without going crazy and literally sanctioning UAE.

I don't see any of the gulf Arabs buying Chinese stealth fighters in the current geopolitical landscape. It will literally mean that country leaving the western camp and joining the China camp and literally willing to become a pariah in the eye of the west.
 

Originname

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But how could they get a gunship-Y-9-variant, when there is no such type today? How likely is such a development for a foreign customer?

By the way, any news regarding the robots with J-10CE & Uzbekistan?
I don't know I heard that they want gunship and one of the variant is modification y-8f-200w or new built y-9. Second variant is the ac-295 based on c295m aircraft offer from Jordan/Turkish collaboration. But there is no large gun like 2a70 100mm with cheap laser guided ammo gp100.

Uzbekistan prioritized relationships with US and delaying process. there is some geopolitical details like US wants cut Chinese dominance in region and this in Russian interest because they are think its their spheres of influence(backyard) etc
 

Deino

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Back to the recently seen J-10CE I had a discussion at another forum and summarised this, maybe someone could correct or complement it in case I missed something !

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But per my understanding we have no hard facts available on any confirmed customer and nowadays the media is more out for clicks & attention and reports without checking the facts, which again is spread even further by the social media. So in essence we have the following more or less credible claims:

  • Sudan ... was once reported I think two years ago, since then NOTHING!
  • Egypt ... was hyped as a given fact by local media and several fan-boys as if even local production would be granted, since then NOTHING! (but allegedly F-15 preferred now)
  • Indonesia ... officially admitted but later again recalled! Seems IMO one of the most likely deals, but unsure if refurbished old J-10A or factory-fresh J-10CE
  • Uzbekistan ... often rumoured as the likely true first customer after Pakistan
  • Tanzania ... something of a wild-card, but indeed not impossible according to my information.
All other reports like North Korea, Algeria and whatever are IMO not credible or possible.
 
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