antiterror13
Brigadier
Yes I know the engines are different, but how do you know they are WS-20 ? Is WS-20 the final target engine for Y-20?
How much better WS-20 compared to D-30KP-2 ?
How many Y-20 that have been fitted with the new engines ?
China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft
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Yes I know the engines are different, but how do you know they are WS-20 ? Is WS-20 the final target engine for Y-20?
How much better WS-20 compared to D-30KP-2 ?
How many Y-20 that have been fitted with the new engines ?
by78
General
obviously these are WS-20 high bypass engines. Y-20 chief designer confirms in Zhuhai air show 2021. WS-20 is one of the prestigious projects in modern PRC history and final destination was Y-20. and this engine derived from WS-10's core machine.
no comparison between these two engines. WS-20 is high bypass, D-30KP-3 is low bypass. Chinese engine is much much better. WS-20's total take off thrust is 36,000 lbs, bypass ratio is 6. much better fuel consumption as this engine is high bypass.
we have seen total 10 Y-20Bs equipped with WS-20 engines in satellite images. Xian has already speed up the production.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
I would like to see a MBT loaded inside the Y20 so we know it can be used to transport a mechanised brigade
anyone have any photos?
anyone have any photos?
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Seem like China is prepping up the airborne brigade. Not sure if airborne operation still relevant today. the latest airborne operation in Ukraine is not very convincing. What you guys think?
A brigade from the 82nd Army Group of PLAGF and the 13th Transport Division of PLAAF conducted a joint exercise to simulate the projection of the integrated regiments. More than 200t of equipment and personnel were loaded and unloaded.
A brigade from the 82nd Army Group of PLAGF and the 13th Transport Division of PLAAF conducted a joint exercise to simulate the projection of the integrated regiments. More than 200t of equipment and personnel were loaded and unloaded.
That really isn't the capability been practiced here , what shown here in the video is just loading , unloading exercise that meant to improve the efficiency, the equipment and the soldiers are not paradropped.
Been able to be air mobile is still very much relevant ,the faster they can load and unload , the faster they will be on station.
About your question , first you need to define what kind of mission set you are talking about
If you are talking about airborne operation like operation overlord and market garden ,then yes, is probably will not happen every again. With air defense that is available these days carrying out an operation like this , will suffer unacceptable casualties.
Paratroopers here are used as a light infantry that are used to capture and hold ground ahead of land assault, back then ground anti air is much weaker , and the mobility of your average ground unit is no where it is today , so the paratroopers had to hold against a lighter, and slower threat. But back even then , as shown in market garden , paratroopers cannot hold against an enemy that has responded with armored force fast enough.
This probably was the use case the Russians where trying to achieve , they wanted to capture the airport and hold it until land unit will be able to connect with it but they failed to do so, probably due to the lack of available air support.
But if you are talking about smaller scale , as a way to out maneuver your enemy by using planes , sure it might happen , but these days it mainly carried out by air assault units. In it's mission set , air assault is pretty much filling all the tactical capability that once carried out by paratroopers. In these case they are used as the fastest moving light infantry formation that is available , striking enemy where they weak .In this role they are used to stop enemy retreat or just to keep the enemy off balance and other goals in support of a bigger picture move, in any case it's used to buy time in a place where a enemy major counter offensive isn't likely.
