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Flight tests of Xian Y-20 proceeding well
By: GREG WALDRONSINGAPORE Source: Flightglobal.com 03:54 6 Mar 2014
Flight tests of China’s Xian Y-20 transport aircraft are proceeding well, with the designer of the type claiming the aircraft has “set new records” for China.
In an interview with China Military Online published on the web site of China’s defence ministry, Y-20 designer Tang Chonghong says the commissioning date of the aircraft is confidential, but that test pilots for the Y-20 programme are undergoing training.

Tang says that all goals have been achieved, specifically in areas such altitude and speed. One area of particular focus appears to be stability during flight.

Following its well-publicised first flight in January 2013, there has been little official commentary about the Y-20. This contrasts with other high profile Chinese defence programmes, such as the routine flight testing aboard Beijing’s first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning.

“The performance of Y-20 is very high,” says Tang. “It can adapt to relatively hard conditions and can land at small airports in mountain areas. In its design, the adverse weather conditions of frigid zone, high heat area and plateau as well as the runway situation are fully considered.”

One source familiar with large jet transport aircraft, however, questions the Y-20’s ability to land on rough fields. He notes that while its two main landing gear bogies have six wheels each, the wheels are arranged in a two-two-two pattern from front-to back.

Among other large jet transports, the Boeing C-17, which was designed with rough-field capability in mind, has two six-wheel main bogies, but in a three-three configuration. Russia’s Ilyushin Il-76 has two eight-wheel main bogies, in a four-four configuration.

Tang also played down speculation about a larger successor to the Y-20.

“The present main work is still to carry out the test flight on Y-20’s basic stability, the brother series is not yet considered,” he says. “Some plans on China’s large transport aircraft are still under discussion, which cannot be disclosed.”

The “plans” Tang’ alludes to could be the possibility that the Y-20 will be used as the basis of a future airborne early warning & control (AEW&C) aircraft. A Y-20 equipped for AEW&C would complement – and eventually replace - Beijing’s Il-76 based KJ-2000 aircraft. The type could also be modified to serve as a tanker.

AEW&C and air-to-air refuelling are seen as two key areas of weakness for China.
Speculation but realistic. although still needs more cowbell.
 

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One source familiar with large jet transport aircraft, however, questions the Y-20’s ability to land on rough fields. He notes that while its two main landing gear bogies have six wheels each, the wheels are arranged in a two-two-two pattern from front-to back.

Among other large jet transports, the Boeing C-17, which was designed with rough-field capability in mind, has two six-wheel main bogies, but in a three-three configuration. Russia’s Ilyushin Il-76 has two eight-wheel main bogies, in a four-four configuration.

One answer, A400M.

I wonder if they are deliberately looking for differences and allocating supposed performance deficiencies without any critical thinking whatsoever.

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And while air to air refuelling is a weakness in the PLA, AEWC certainly is not.
 

SinoSoldier

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One answer, A400M.

I wonder if they are deliberately looking for differences and allocating supposed performance deficiencies without any critical thinking whatsoever.

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And while air to air refuelling is a weakness in the PLA, AEWC certainly is not.

Given the scope of potential missions in which China may partake and the geography and region their brass has in mind, aerial refueling might not be as urgent of an issue for China as would troop lift. But true, China's AEW&C is very advanced, even more so in some respects than US.
 

Verum

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Given the scope of potential missions in which China may partake and the geography and region their brass has in mind, aerial refueling might not be as urgent of an issue for China as would troop lift. But true, China's AEW&C is very advanced, even more so in some respects than US.

How? Please elaborate, I'm curious.
 

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How? Please elaborate, I'm curious.

He's talking about how all PLA AEWC birds are AESA whereas the USAF is still soldiering on with PESA equipped E-3s.

Of course, that is not necessarily representative of capability -- after all the E-3s are very mature and have undergone extensive upgrades, and KJ-2000 and KJ-200 are relatively new. Furthermore, AEWCs work best when there is a substantial sigint/elint/ew and C4ISR infrastructure among all other relevant assets as well to feed off the AEWC bird, and in that respect the networking capability of the overall USAF is probably far greater than the overall PLAAF.


However the fact we can't ignore is that KJ-2000 and KJ-200 do still use AESA, which are "technically" more "advanced" than the E-3s PESA.
 

EblisTx

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IL-78 during test flight, modified from an old IL-76... For the first time, Su-30/J-16 can be air-fueled...
 

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Interesting indeed ...:eek:
 

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asif iqbal

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Well I will answer my own questions now they have surplus IL-76 I guess they could afford to keep some as refueling tankers

With a limited number of IL-76 in the previous years with some converted to AWACS it was probably not deemed affordable to use more cargo IL-76 as tankers

Now with the extra 10 units they have the ability to do so
 

asif iqbal

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Check this new light tank out

I believe the Y-20 will be able go lift a fully combat ready MBT and maybe two of these light tanks

This means for the high altitude remote areas where China needs tanks and mechanised armour the Y-20 will be able to drop considerable supply's near the Indian Border, Tibet and Centra Asia

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