China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft - esp. Y-20/YY-20

escobar

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Just give me some help: CJ-1000 is for the C919 and not for the Y-20 and both engines are not related to each other ??

Deino:confused:

about the CJ-1000A...

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Deino

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This can't be real. The thing looks photoshopped and pasted anyways.

Can You explain ??? I agree with You that it is too good to be true and esp. too small to tell if real or not, as such a strange feeling remains, but is it only that mentioned strange feeling or something special, which makes You sceptical ?

Deino
 

Blitzo

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Who knows, it might be (real)

If real, we can expect larger pictures in coming days, if not... then it'll subside into the rest of the simmering buckets of false alarms that we've collected over the years.

But given the rhetoric from the PLAAF regarding Y-20's eventual immediate in service status as being able to haul 66 tons (and thus meaning it is equipped with WS-20), maybe the engine program is a bit further ahead and moving a bit more quickly than we thought.
 

SinoSoldier

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Can You explain ??? I agree with You that it is too good to be true and esp. too small to tell if real or not, as such a strange feeling remains, but is it only that mentioned strange feeling or something special, which makes You sceptical ?

Deino

For previous "leakages" of military equipment, we usually start with small blurry pictures of them on the ground. That is preceded by tons of military insider talk of the equipment. Here, we have no prior military insider information. In, fact, the officials have already stated that the WS-20 won't be ready until 2016. One would expect that the person who took this photo, assuming it's real, would at least take more photos of the plane than this one. Then the fact that the photo is very small automatically suggests that the author is trying to hide any signs of photoshop.

The engine also looks very small in relation to the D-30K compared to the official Y-20 tabletop model.
 

Blitzo

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I think it's unwise to apply past precedent of unveilings of new planes or bits and bobs on future unveilings.

Besides this is a photo of what we presume to be the Il-76 engine testbed, one may say it's not worthy of having a blurry images leaked for it. Certainly not the magnitude of J-20 or Y-20.


And we've gotten small, cropped pictures before. It's too much to assume why or why not the photographer may have only decided to shed this particular photo.

Honestly, if we did have suspicions this was a PS, what we should be doing is A, wait to see if anything else comes out, B, looking for any pictures of Il-76s that fit that image which could have been PSed from.


But if that is indeed WS-20, it does look a little on the small side. Wait it out.
 

escobar

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In, fact, the officials have already stated that the WS-20 won't be ready until 2016.

huh, its chief designer said that domestically designed and manufactured engines will be tested during test flights and once they have passed various tests they will power it.

The engine also looks very small in relation to the D-30K compared to the official Y-20 tabletop model.

short maybe, but not small for me
 

escobar

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For previous "leakages" of military equipment, we usually start with small blurry pictures of them on the ground. That is preceded by tons of military insider talk of the equipment. Here, we have no prior military insider information. In, fact, the officials have already stated that the WS-20 won't be ready until 2016...

In fact, an article published today in People Daily confirms that the development of the domestically designed high bypass ratio engine for Y-20 has progressed very well:
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