China's transport, tanker & heavy lift aircraft

J-XX

Banned Idiot
You guys do know David Axe most likely frequents this site. My friend told me he's registered over at CDF. Notice in his latest article he's taking more swipes at the internet China watchers? I hope I contributed to his insecurities which was by design. Bruuuhahahahha! The guy can't take what he dishes.

I think it's great to see people like David Axe rattled. It shows China is developing so fast that haters are infuriated.
It's a sign of Chinese success.
 

usaf0314

Junior Member
I think it's great to see people like David Axe rattled. It shows China is developing so fast that haters are infuriated.
It's a sign of Chinese success.

the west has ALWAYS underestimated China's ability to develop. usually if the west say China might get something done in 10 years, it'll happen in 5.
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
My friend told me he tried posting a reply on the Wired article saying China Airlines as number one rank as worst airlines was Taiwanese not China (just that) in response to the comment that was an example of China's aeronautic record. Axe's co-horts rejected it and didn't allow it to be posted. Talk about communist censorship. Pretty hypocritical.
 
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In high school I'd get upset over my peers making stupid comments and jokes and acting all cocky and arrogantly immature, however if today I suddenly get thrown back in time to re-witness all those again, I won't even give a damn.
What I see is the same here. Most of our regular forum members (even the infamous Mig), know much more about China and are more informed about the capabilities of the Chinese than they ever are. Even with our biases, we are still more moderate and critical than they will ever be. With that said, we are miles ahead of who those kids are and we should just continue to let those so-called experts continue to make themselves look ridiculous while we do our own thing, as I feel we have no point in getting worked up over petty internet boys. What those idiots spew out of their mouth shows they are pretty much no different than from those high school kids I've mentioned, so why we who know much better, should get upset over the acts of the intellectually lower class? Axe may be very knowledgeable in other things, but when it comes to talking about Chinese defense, he's just a choir boy, and surely I won't get worked up over another Justin Bieber with glasses.
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Who cares what David Axe has to say and think anyway? He's as irrelevant as Gordon Change predicting China's economics downfall.
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
Lol no they actually said the Y-20 don't have back loading door.


that would of course be so assinine it's not even worth discussing!!!! I also like to correct my statement about front clamshell door.. I meant to say front visor type hinged loading doors that pivots over the cockpit. I think if the designers did not incorporate the ability to front load a Y-20 it would be HUGE design error.

Someone pls tell me the Y-20 have front cargo load doors because now that I see how the nose is fairly sharp and canted down as oppose to upwards stubby like C-5 or C-17 I'm getting worried!!!! :confused:
 
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i.e.

Senior Member
I would be amazed if C919 did not feature FBW.

I can speak with authority that...

amongst its competitors, (A320NEO, 737-MAX), C919 would have the most modern f-b-w system ( and control law)...

If everything goes according to plan ;)
 

i.e.

Senior Member
66 tons is the figure that's often given for this transporter. However here is my question the IL-76 can only transport 40 tons and the Y-20 can transport 66 tons but both use the same engines. How can China get more than 26 tons out of the same 4 engines ? I know about lighter electronic parts, increase of use of composite materials and redesigned airframe for better aerodynamic performance. But still 26 tons ?

wing area!

It is not the thrust that lift airplane, it is Lift! duhhh!!!
 

kwaigonegin

Colonel
wing area!

It is not the thrust that lift airplane, it is Lift! duhhh!!!

that's not entirely true. While you are correct in saying that wing area is the primary variable to generate lift or more specifically the lift coefficient you also need the corresponding power to generate enough thrust and airspeed to maintain the load otherwise the big fat plane will never take off or fly properly. ;)
 
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